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Post by
balu0
As the title says
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe00eZMgVb00Eoru0gRto
No talent in sprint, if I get rooted in raid, I just can vanish or cos out of it.
I went for poisons , they do a hell of a lot damage.
I use 5cp evis with the glyph, and it crit 7k+
Other glyps are snd and sinister ones.
Opinions? I think it's solid.
I go with wp/wp since I evis not evenom.
PS.: I had trouble with that 1 point left... any tips?
Post by
KidB
(-10)/10
Good luck with keeping up a steady rotations without RS.
Post by
lovemuffins
As the title says
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe00eZMgVb00Eoru0gRto
No talent in sprint, if I get rooted in raid, I just can vanish or cos out of it.
I went for poisons , they do a hell of a lot damage.
I use 5cp evis with the glyph, and it crit 7k+
Other glyps are snd and sinister ones.
Opinions? I think it's solid.
I go with wp/wp since I evis not evenom.
PS.: I had trouble with that 1 point left... any tips?
spec i use.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eb0xZMgVb00xqru0gRtx
evis isnt worth it rupture should still out dmg evis in the long run. no relent strike. wounding poison main hand deadly poison offhand.
read the sticky at the top made by kicklucky tells you everything you need to know. if you want big crits go mutilate.
Post by
balu0
(-10)/10
Good luck with keeping up a steady rotations without RS.
I have no problem at all keeping up 1 cp snd -> 5cp evis, after 5 cp I still have a few second from the 1cp snd, remember I have snd glyph and talent in snd, its loooong. Try again.
RS is overrated imho, as I see I get a lot more damage from +20% poison damage than from the little energy after finishers. But feel free to prove me wrong ,im not at all sure about this.
Post by
balu0
As the title says
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe00eZMgVb00Eoru0gRto
No talent in sprint, if I get rooted in raid, I just can vanish or cos out of it.
I went for poisons , they do a hell of a lot damage.
I use 5cp evis with the glyph, and it crit 7k+
Other glyps are snd and sinister ones.
Opinions? I think it's solid.
I go with wp/wp since I evis not evenom.
PS.: I had trouble with that 1 point left... any tips?
spec i use.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eb0xZMgVb00xqru0gRtx
evis isnt worth it rupture should still out dmg evis in the long run. no relent strike. wounding poison main hand deadly poison offhand.
read the sticky at the top made by kicklucky tells you everything you need to know. if you want big crits go mutilate.
The only difference is that you have rapture and rs , when I have poison and evis... I'm think I would outdamage that spec... poison damage now is BIG...
With my items I go for hit and haste, I have a good amount of arp from the mace spec, and some gear anyway. More hit and more haste = more poison proc... in my recount my wp is realy close behind sinister, and alway over 20% of my damage.
Post by
KidB
I have no problem at all keeping up 1 cp snd -> 5cp evis, after 5 cp I still have a few second from the 1cp snd, remember I have snd glyph and talent in snd, its loooong. Try again.
1s/5r is a sub-par rotation. Try again.
EDIT: oh jesus, you said 1s/5evis...
Post by
lovemuffins
As the title says
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe00eZMgVb00Eoru0gRto
No talent in sprint, if I get rooted in raid, I just can vanish or cos out of it.
I went for poisons , they do a hell of a lot damage.
I use 5cp evis with the glyph, and it crit 7k+
Other glyps are snd and sinister ones.
Opinions? I think it's solid.
I go with wp/wp since I evis not evenom.
PS.: I had trouble with that 1 point left... any tips?
spec i use.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eb0xZMgVb00xqru0gRtx
evis isnt worth it rupture should still out dmg evis in the long run. no relent strike. wounding poison main hand deadly poison offhand.
read the sticky at the top made by kicklucky tells you everything you need to know. if you want big crits go mutilate.
The only difference is that you have rapture and rs , when I have poison and evis... I'm think I would outdamage that spec... poison damage now is BIG...
With my items I go for hit and haste, I have a good amount of arp from the mace spec, and some gear anyway. More hit and more haste = more poison proc... in my recount my wp is realy close behind sinister, and alway over 20% of my damage.
if your poison dmg is close to your sinister strike dmg you are doing something wrong.
going with the normal answer and
spec right and spreadsheet
Post by
balu0
if your poison dmg is close to your sinister strike dmg you are doing something wrong.
What do you mean ? Sinister should be much more ? Did you checked my build at all? I have +20% posion from talent , and now the posion have AP coeff and can crit, it should be that high.
Hell, thats the point of my build. To get as high poison damage as I can while not loseing much from the normal combat.
Post by
balu0
I have no problem at all keeping up 1 cp snd -> 5cp evis, after 5 cp I still have a few second from the 1cp snd, remember I have snd glyph and talent in snd, its loooong. Try again.
1s/5r is a sub-par rotation. Try again.
EDIT: oh jesus, you said 1s/5evis...
My snd never drops, and I do 5cp finisher all the time , now forget if I do evis or rapture that is a other thing (I just can take the 3 points from evis, put 2 in rapture and 1 more to RS), just point out whats is your problem with this rotation plz, I'm honestly curious , mybe I do something wrong.
Post by
lovemuffins
if your poison dmg is close to your sinister strike dmg you are doing something wrong.
What do you mean ? Sinister should be much more ? Did you checked my build at all? I have +20% posion from talent , and now the posion have AP coeff and can crit, it should be that high.
Hell, thats the point of my build. To get as high poison damage as I can while not loseing much from the normal combat.
correct me if im wrong...
wounding poison does not get a bonus from AP only instant and maybe deadly. correct if wrong.
stacking just haste and hit and using evis is a no no. you should use a spread sheet to see what gear is a dps upgrade. going after just some stats is bad.
also its spelled rupture.
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47535
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48672
pretty diff imo
Post by
KidB
correct me if im wrong...
wounding poison does not get a bonus from AP only instant and maybe deadly. correct if wrong.
stacking just haste and hit and using evis is a no no. you should use a spread sheet to see what gear is a dps upgrade. going after just some stats is bad.
All poisons scale through AP, but what makes wounding superior (without imp. poisons) is it's 50% proc rate. You're spot on otherwise.
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214954
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Post by
KidB
I wish the rogue.radical spreadsheet was up to date QQ
You too? ;)
1s/5r is a sub-par rotation.
Wasn't that the rotation for 2pc T4, which gave +3sec to SnD? Best rotation is the one that maximizes Rupture uptime while keeping SnD anyway
5s/5r/(5e*) is the strongest rotation available.
*if able, consult
this
link for more info.
Post by
lovemuffins
id go CQC but i has no mainhand fist weapon worth using =( i replaced my brut daggers and swords with rep blues and quest blues.
/sadpanda
Post by
214954
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Post by
balu0
So ,anyone here can calculate if Vile Poisons is better or not than RS ? On a 10 min boss fight for example?
What I think is a flat +20% poison damage is much better than the energy from RS.
Post by
lovemuffins
So ,anyone here can calculate if Vile Poisons is better or not than RS ? On a 10 min boss fight for example?
What I think is a flat +20% poison damage is much better than the energy from RS.
so you think extra dmg > extra energy used to keep up rotations is better?
making sure i understood that.
Post by
balu0
So ,anyone here can calculate if Vile Poisons is better or not than RS ? On a 10 min boss fight for example?
What I think is a flat +20% poison damage is much better than the energy from RS.
so you think extra dmg > extra energy used to keep up rotations is better?
making sure i understood that.
Yes, since I have no problem keeping up the rotation with the energy I currently have without RS... 1.4 mace in off-h, with a little bit haste proc Comb.Pot. nicely so I want to spend the points as effectively as I can, and since after melee-> sinister, poison is the next on my recount, I figured boosting that will give me the best result, ans since 5mans prove this, I want to hear other opinions.
(BTW sticks are not the allknowingfullyprovedabsoluttruth, its just the collection of the most common builds)
Doing around 1600 +/- 100 dps in 5mans (80 since 2 days only , so just crafted and quest blues, but nice ones none the less :D 111dps 2.8 main and 111dps 1.4 off maces 2400+ ap 153 hit (damn its hard to keep this up) 9% arp+15% from mace spec, and cant remember the haste but my 1.4 works on 1.34 right now), going to nax this week, so I will have some real numbers to compare.
I may just re-talent next week to compare, but that just depends on too much factor.
Post by
KidB
Good luck with your suck.™
Post by
balu0
Good luck with your suck.™
Thank you for you helpful answer sir. You just proved what I was suspecting... ty
So, anyone on this forums can tell me if Vile Poisons will or will not out damage RS ? To make it more simple, just take the cookie cutter combat talent and take 3 points from RS to Vile Poisons.
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