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Long awaited showdown of the Global cooldown and Haste: And The winner is. A thread you must read
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Post by
Qlix
well ok this kind of makes sense now. We're still missing something I feel but im not at all disappointed. I still feel as Gengis feels, and its also something ive stated from the beginning, Indora check my Hunting Lodge post about it: Haste
effects
modifiy the GCD.
What this means is that i can still look for the grat gear itemizations with agility, crit, ap, and hit on them and still pick up things like DST, Meteorite Whetstone, and Thundering Skyflare Diamond and get the benefits of both.
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Gengis
Alright I think I know what you are getting at but just to be sure PLEASE dumb it down a notch for me and tell me EXACTLY what your saying.
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Gengis
We already know that rapid fire doesn't do anything for our GCD nor does it do anything really other than give the illusion of shoot faster. It just buffs auto shots.
But anyhow, I still have my data from my camera experiments and this is what happened. What my camera was viewing or telling me wasn't wrong it is that I wasn't looking at the right info.
Basically this is what I was told and now see with recount and nothing else. Just cause you are seeing something on your end at 1 speed doesn't mean it is happening at the same time with everyone else.
Once I looked at my recount data it did in fact show me what KR tests are saying. HASTE as a number DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for your GCD. But if you have something that is like Heroism that will lower the cooldown.
I am very sorry for misinforming everyone, for it was a mistake on my part for not looking at my results close enough before posting.
So this stat does nothing if you are a BM hunter other than get your auto shot lower. But again if you are MM you will still need enough haste to lower your steady shot down to the 1.5 second cast.
Again I apologize for any misunderstanding and I thank Killerrabbit for finally helping me see the light and put this conundrum to bed.
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Gengis
We already know that rapid fire doesn't do anything for our GCD nor does it do anything really other than give the illusion of shoot faster. It just buffs auto shots.
But anyhow, I still have my data from my camera experiments and this is what happened. What my camera was viewing or telling me wasn't wrong it is that I wasn't looking at the right info.
Basically this is what I was told and now see with recount and nothing else. Just cause you are seeing something on your end at 1 speed doesn't mean it is happening at the same time with everyone else.
Once I looked at my recount data it did in fact show me what KR tests are saying. HASTE as a number DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for your GCD. But if you have something that is like Heroism that will lower the cooldown.
I am very sorry for misinforming everyone, for it was a mistake on my part for not looking at my results close enough before posting.
So this stat does nothing if you are a BM hunter other than get your auto shot lower. But again if you are MM you will still need enough haste to lower your steady shot down to the 1.5 second cast.
Again I apologize for any misunderstanding and I thank Killerrabbit for finally helping me see the light and put this conundrum to bed.
Post by
d3xx
Are there any plans for Bliz to make hunter haste affect the GCD? ie not just steady/auto?
Not that it makes much difference to me - my latency runs 400-800ms :(
Post by
Quickill
Using Leth's system for looking at those numbers that apply to the aura in the skill's tooltip, has anyone compared the numbers from heroism(which is know to lessen the GCD so it can be used as a reference) and compared it with the numbers from the other items/trinkets to see how they compare?
Post by
Qlix
rehashing this thread because something ocurred to me:
Why in the heck was DST so good for hunters? Even as BM it was considerred 1st or 2nd best trinket in the game.
But if we're saying BM is already haste soft capped and only herism and bloodlust affect the GCD the DST wouldnt be beneficial.
But we all know that it is.
Why?
And what about
Tears of Bitter Anguish
or
Meteorite Whetstone
all they are are upgraded versions of the
DST
all 3 with
Apply Aura: Mod Rating (917504)
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Qlix
Ok so lets take that comment right there: Pre 3.0 we had clipping, 1.5 seconds on both Auto and Steady.
BM with quiver and 5/5 Serpents Swiftness was at that mark. DST shoulda sucked @$$ pre 3.0 too. UNLESS it reduced the GCD and the cast time for both shots.
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Qlix
The only action my Hunter has seen since a while pre-3.0 is Mining, Cooking, Fishing, and Cooking...
thats sad... because hunters are raping everyone right now, at least I am, and thats with all the unknows and sketchy itemizations.
KR I'll try to come up with a better way to say what im trying to say.
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