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Why do people expect to roll for shards?
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Pixels
Roll greed for the item or roll greed for the shard -- either way you have the exact same chance of coming out with an enchanting mat so why not be nice and increase the value of the item for everyone else who is rolling as well?
We all have things we need in game to progress, I don't see any reason to be a jerk just for the sake of it.
What do you gain by NOT disenchanting for all? You don't gain any higher chance at winning the item so I don't see the point. Common courtesy goes a long way in this game.
I think the difference between miners, herbalists and skinners is that without that said person there would be nothing of value. Without the enchanter there would still be SOMETHING, just of lesser value. There seems no reason for the enchanter to not increase the value of the item when they have the ability to do so at no disadvantage to themselves.
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Ryuken
I've skimmed most of this, but the simplest solution is to not mention your an enchanter and just greed everything someone doesn't need. When you zone out DE everything you won.
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Pixels
Let me rephrase.
Any
intelligent
thoughts?
Well, I wrote this earlier in response to your concerns about other professions, perhaps you missed it.
I think the difference between miners, herbalists and skinners is that without that person there, there would be nothing of value. Without the enchanter there would still be SOMETHING which you have all worked towards, just of lesser value. There seems no reason for the enchanter to not increase the value of the item when they have the ability to do so at no disadvantage to themselves but if you really feel the need to not disenchant for others that win rolls on unneeded items than just DE those that you win later when the group has disbanded -- personally, I don't see any point to this, though.
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Nipherdil
If no one needs the item everyone should just greed, the only time I expect shards to be rolled for is when an enchanter offers to disenchant stuff. If you dont want ppl to roll for the shards then dont offer to disenchant for the party, just greed /w everyone else.
I also agree /w what some ppl have already said about the other professions, if no one can mine or skin no one will benifit, but if no one can disenchant at least the item can be npc'd and some of that stuff npc's for a decent amount.
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Bonemane
I'd Just like to comment, What there is to gain and lose from Disenchanting for the group.
1 - There is the 20% Chance To get the shard (There is this chance either way)
2 - There is the chance that people will pass on shards or not care about them at all, therefor you get all the shards at the end.
3 - Puts more shards in the market so you can advertise to shard for free if they have mats (and they will have mats because You and other shamans sharded in dungeons).
4 - People will look on you better, possibly Add you to friends and invite u on more dungeon runs.
5 - People could go on the policy, if they won something, they pass on shards because they believe they have already recieved their share of the loot (I know many people who choose to do this)
Now some down sides.
1 - It can be viewed as unfair because miners, skinners etc. Get to keep there stuff... If this is the case, You are probably quite a selfish person.
2 - You may feel used, this is once again an emotional thing that you should be able to get over...
Alright, just commenting quick... With all this stuff, honestly from the way i see it, the positives way outdo the negatives, Honestly. Secondly i'd just like to remind you, that the only people who use a large number of shards are enchanters, therefor everything you shard in a dungeon is likely to end up with an enchanter anyway. So in the long run, you actually stand more to benefit from sharding for everyone than to not shard for people.
Lastly, on the mining etc. People do not stand to lose from someone skinning, Mining or participating in herbalism. However they stand to lose out on gold if you Disenchant something. Therefor, they have more of a right to the shard than they would to the ore, mind you, i have never been asked to share out the ore, and i do not know what i would do in such a situation.
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