3.0.2: Arcane at 70, PvP..any good spec?

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Post by Escalis

Thanks alot dude helped! Think I'll stick to your spec. And, yeah, actually I agree, focus magic is kinda lame.
Although only thing i dont really agree with is taking magic absorption instead of arcane shielding. Resistances are only good for magic, like other mages, locks and priests i guess. Maybe droods too. But what about melee kind of opponents? Would be nice to have less mana taken, especially now that you haven't speced so much +intellect...and if you really want resistances arcane shielding gives mage armor extra resistances...

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Post by nickseng

Also, Mage armor? For PVP? That should be your last option. Molten armor or go home a loser :/

I ... see.

Post by Escalis

Hm well we'll see...thanks anyway

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Yeah yeah ...I guess your right :P Thanks!

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Post by Escalis

You know what? Im gonna skip arcane focus and add to mana instead, then I CAn use mana shield if i really need to, and 3% extra hit isnät taht much anyays. Its better for pve

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Post by Snitzel

Well this spec works pretty well for me http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ofcV0hMczeGzRtcdbZVc frostbolts are hitting hard as *!@# and i got pretty good survivability... not saying this is the best or that its better than any other... just that it works pretty well!

so do you AB or Frostbolt primarily?

Post by Caylie

I find this build very good.
By spamming Frostbolt I get the target snared which makes "Torment the Weak" work on thrash, so I won't have to use a GCD on Slow, but the snare becomes a part of the rotation on thrash. My rotation is: Frostbolt - and then use Arcane Missiles if Missile Barrage should happen to proc.
On bosses I do the same rotation, but I keep Slow up.
Arcane Barrage talent could be skipped. But I like it, and keep it for an extra Fire Blast, and it's fun for dueling aswell. (And see DPS with different rotations below) :-) As stated, I do never use Arcane Blast. I'm right now doing a test of which rotation is best for me, will post results when I'm done.

Edit:
Alright, I'm done with my testing. I'm using the spec which is linked above. Theese are the rotations I used in my testing, and after the DPS listed on 5 tries.
Frostbolt Spam: 1309, 1159, 1311, 1375, 1200 (1270.8 average DPS)
Frostbolt/Arcane Barrage: 1529, 1297, 1620, 1387, 1415 (1449.6 average DPS)

This is selfbuffed with:
1142 Spellpower
21.11% Crit
186 Haste Rating
176 Hit (Yes, I know I'm overcapped, I'm used to be fire.)
And the Darkmoon Card: Crusade (Adds 80 spellpower after 8 spells.)

Frostbolt spam does keep up for a little longer. But Frostbolt/Arcane Barrage rotation does more DPS. So the conclusion is: Frostbolt/Arcane Barrage for short fights. And Frostbolt spam, for longer fights. (Really depends on you want to use Super Mana Potion when their off cooldowns, if you got 2 Tier 6, Glyph of Mana Gem, etc. which will do you able to use the Frostbolt/Arcane Barrage for longer time.)

Basicly the difference between Arcane Blast/Arcane Barrage and the Frostbolt rotations is like this:

Snare on Normal mobs/Thrash mobs + 6% extra damage + 50 extra crit bonus (Frostbolt) VS 6% extra crit chance on main spell (Arcane Blast)

Hope this helped you.

Post by Escalis

So, kbrebel04, any ides for arcane pvp at 80?
Since I will have so many talent points, I think it would be useful to spec mana shield anyways. Mana shield CAN be helpful, but it drains to much mana atm. Especially against mele, rouges and pala i need to use it. As written further down if I take on multiple enemys it's helpful.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=obxiburcdeGuGtxdbZ0h

I have been playing with you build for a week now, except I changed arcane focus to 3 in +intellect. I would actually want to skip a point in torment of weak for full + intellect, since mana is kinda important as arcane, or mages overall. And does haste affect the channeled duration of arcane missiles? Because if not, as i guess, it will be unnecessary to spec it for PvP. The same with arcane meditaition, but student of mind, +spirit, I think would be very useful to have when running away from a battle. It often happens that I kill one enemy and then another comes along, and I don't stand such a big chance against him, I sometimes succeed, but that is only if i have some mana + hp left. +Spirit would help along there. I had one point left and put in in focus magic since i didn't know what else. What do you think?

3.0.2: Arcane at 70, PvP..any good spec?

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