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BenjenStark
It's just possible that the devs did not have spamming Arcane Blast nonstop in mind when they designed the spell.
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nickseng
Nerf?
How did you get that?
AB spam is now 20% ahead in damage compared to deep fire and 30% ahead of deep frost. Yes, while the debuff is indeed short, the damage increase is much higher than before, and coupled with the static cast time, AB spam is much more sustainable than before.
It's been theorycrafted that in a fight where you would be interrupted every 12 seconds (ie, having to drop the debuff), AB spam would still come out to be equal to deep fire. And being interrupted every 12 seconds is not gonna be common.
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Actually, in the beta before the latest iteration, it WAS possible to spam AB continuously. With the low mana cost (even after 3 stacks) and high damage (75% from debuff and 15% from talents), it consistantly out-dpsed Fire.
Which is why, I think, the devs shortened to debuff. They really didn't want us to keep spamming it.
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Yeah, me too.
AB in live was not sustainable. You had to chain-pot, gem, evocate, have a spriest, etc. And you still had to rotate Frostbolt every now and then.
AB in beta, before the latest changes, was sustainable. You didn't have to use any other spell. And yes, we are talking about the 3 second debuff. Even though the debuff was broken every now and then, the sheer damage output was that even having to re-ramp, it still was ahead of the other specs by 20-30%.
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Moltare
^ what piggybox said.
Arcane Blast is supposed to be a mana-efficient spell to put into a rotation, or a very inefficient way of putting out unsustainable DPS for short periods. The previous build's was too cheap and powerful; the current's is too weak and expensive.
They've still time to fiddle the numbers to something between the two.
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My only question is... What is Arcane's Staple Spell? Arcane Missiles never fit the bill, so we had to use a fireball/frostbolt, but neither of them really work well either as both are unsuitable for an Arcane spec.
I understand what they were trying to do with Arcane Blast, but it's obviously not going to work, they need to get rid of the debuff component, and just make it a nice stable baseline bolt style attack similar to fire and frostbolts. So that we can and will spam it, but without any noticeable gains, other than that it works well with the rest of arcane, like Fireball does with it's spec and Frost with it's...
Arcane Barrage, obviously. :)
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