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If you look at the lore, or lolore rather...theres nothing wrong with this...I mean hell in WC3 you went around slaughtering civilians who were defensless, did no one play that game?
Look at it this way (RP a little bit), I'm a juggernaught serving the Lich King, best way to recruit. More corpses! I mean GD, if you are having moral issues honestly...go outside, go say hello to your friends.
Btw, did you ever do the Battle of hillsbrad chain =P, killed a ton of civvies in that one.
This game isn't for pacifists =o (and yes I've seen the article of the guy whos trying to level to 70 without killing any mobs)
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"As a responsible adult member of a modern society, do you really want to see more games promoting torture and innocent killing?"
I consider it bad taste. What it tells me is that Blizz has dropped down to the level that many media company have gone to. Showing immoral and sensational events to draw the interest to their games.
IT'S FICTION.
This game is far more about Story Arc and where one fits into society than it is about glorifying violence. It's a means to an end, and Death Knights are no different than a paladin in that respect. There may be some Paladin archetype out there who is pure and good, but people in this game don't play them that way. everyone is on a level playing field here.
This is a story arc that is germane to the lore, and it has nothing to do with adopting specific violent acts just to draw more interest to the game. If the next expansion is about the Emerald Dream and freeing Malfurion, would you argue that Blizzard is pandering to hippies and tree-huggers so that they'll join WoW?
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Would it appease all of the thin-skinned ninnies of the game to have an alternate DK starting, where you're talking to your father about Crom and the Riddle of Steel, then people slaughter your town and all of a sudden you're pushing a big wheel in the desert, and when you look up at the camera, the music gets all loud and boom, you're a death knight?
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"As a responsible adult member of a modern society, do you really want to see more games promoting torture and innocent killing?"
So depiction=promotion? Just because the story behind the death knight lore necessitates an understanding of just what death knights are (ie people who murder and torture innocents at the behest of a powerful ruler) does not mean that Blizzard is running out and telling people to emulate the actual practice.
Merely discrediting the game as a promotion of vile acts does it a disservice. Fact of the matter is there are people that murder and torture all over the world. In a game that purports to at least somewhat mimic a world with its own history, culture and ideas, wouldn't those types of characters exist? To understand those characters fully, wouldn't a gruesome story be necessary to convey just where that character came from and the reasons why it broke from the Lich King?
It is fiction, like many fantasy stories and novels. Its there to act as a medium between the creators of the story and the people who take part in it. Just because Blizzard wants to expand upon their story is no reason to decry a bad twist.
I consider it bad taste. What it tells me is that Blizz has dropped down to the level that many media company have gone to. Showing immoral and sensational events to draw the interest to their games.
If you consider it in bad taste don't play a dk, its that simple.
Senseless violence sucks. I don't encourage it, even in fictional content. There IS many alternatives to depicting evil that don't involves that.
There ARE many alternatives. But if the story requires that then it does. I don't support senseless violence, but if I'm lecturing on the Holocaust, I do have to talk about some senseless violence that went on. Does that mean I'm promoting genocide? The death knight lore is a part of Azeroth's history, albeit a fictional history. If you're going to play a death knight, its good to know why you're playing your role.
The "what happened to your morals while you were grinding mobs to level up?" argument don't apply either. All those mobs had weapons and could have just as easily killed me, and some did. That was, morally, a contest between opponents that have agreed to risk death.
So intruding on a kobold's territory and killing it for being there is a moral contest between opponents that have agreed to risk death? Who says the kobold actually wanted to fight you? Granted they're just bits of data with no decision making abilities free of programing, but does that make it morally right to go and kill them?
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