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Wait wait wait, Draenei Death-Knights??
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Derichian
im just at the point where everything ive read has told me draenei could never be DK's, draeneis are draenei for a reason, the name draenei is not there races name, but the select few that were so pure that not even the lord of all evil could corrupt them, so im thinking even if the lich king is all powerful, sargeras is more powerful tenfold, and if they could not be corrupted by him, wat chance does the lich king have to corrupt them O_O. so please stop refering to draenei as easily corruptable, because they are the most incorruptable in the universe, it was the EREDAR that were corrupted. any of there race with the name Draenei is pure good/light, and servant for all eternity to Naa'ru, and i would think if they wanted to be all powerful, theyd rather be an eredar then a deathknight.
There are ghost draenei necromancers -all around- auchindoun.
They arent eredar, they're draenei. They dont use holy magic, they use shadow magic.
It isnt a stretch for a draenei to become a death knight. Hell, Highlord Mograine was the purest, most 'holy' paladin to ever walk azeroth, and even he became a deathknight.
he become a death-knight because he was slain by his son with ashbringer, and since ashbringer was part of his soul and was corrupted by such a evil deed, it corrupted mograines soul hence making him a deathknight, had that never happened im sure he never woulda turned to the darkside :P
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Derichian
That would be Like saying Superman Came before Clark kent.
Technically Superman DID come before Clark Kent..because Clark Kent was his disguise. Remember, Superman isn't human.
actually, Kal'el came frist, then he became clark kent once he was adopted by the kents, Clark being thought up quick by martha kent as it is her Maiden name, and clark was not aware he was an alien until he was about 14 when hes parents revealed his hidden spaceship to him :P so infact clark kent did come before superman, his realname isnt superman, its Kal'el of the House of El, superman is the name given to him by the metropolis Press Onces he Begins crimefightin :) kthx
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visas
yea, just because someone breaks free of the lich king's control doesnt mean they suddenly 'turn good'.
I'm willing to be plenty of the npc members of that faction are still going to treat non-deathknights like crap and will have quite the arrogant attitude (wouldnt you, if you had that much power?).
Good or bad is a state of mind, you dont instantly change personalities just because you change your employer.
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Blizzard suck : ( !!!oneone!!111
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DoomHammer
you do realize that the scourge came from outland right?
i thought they came from the twisting nether...
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visas
you do realize that the scourge came from outland right?
i thought they came from the twisting nether...
northrend/lordaeron, actually. The scourge was created by the lich king after he was imprisoned at icecrown.
The scourge developed on two fronts - the first was directly re-animated corpses the lich king had on hand in northrend (frozen bodies from those long dead, most likely). The second was the plague he spread into lordaeron that started turning the humans (and some elves) there into undead scourge.
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Sokur
My problem with this whole thing is that, for the most part, Death Knight's are fallen Paladins. Gnomes cannont be Paladin's, neither can Tauren. I had a hissy fit when they allowed Blood Elves to be Paladins. Having the Paladin races become Death Knights is alright in my book, having any allowable race to become a Death Knight....something funky with that. A rumored Hero class is the Arch Druid....you think they will let Humans be Arch Druids?
Just my $.02
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Arnor
Ok, there seems to be a lot of confusion around the Scourge in here.
It all started on Outland, with the orcish elder Shaman and Warchief of the clans Ner'zhul. Long story short, Kil'jaeden contacted him and through him introduced hatred for the Draenei and warlock magic into the shamanistic orcish society. Ner'zhul later found out he had been tricked by Kil'jaeden and resolved to defy him but Gul'dan - Ner'zhul's apprentice - told Kil'jaeden of the imminent betrayal and was rewarded with Ner'zhul's position while Ner'zhul was stripped of power and given a decorative position.
After the Horde had been defeated in the second war, Ner'zhul sought a way to flee Draenor before Kil'jaeden would return. He opened the portals that tore Draenor asunder and created Outland and fled through one.
However he was captured by Kil'jaeden, his body torn apart while his spirit was kept alive to be encased in a block of ice later known as the Frozen Throne where his perception, consciousness, mental- and magical powers greatly increased. He was thus thrown into Azeroth to land in Northrend.
At that point Ner'zhul created the scourge, enslaving the indigenous life forms of Northrend with his psychic powers. The plague of undeath emanating from the Frozen Throne then turned them into Undead servants to the Lich King. Thus the first members of the scourge were not humans, but the denisens of Northrend in undeath, ranging from Trolls to Nerubians to the beastly wildlife of Northrend.
It was only after the Lich King had what one could describe as conquering Northrend that he started to reach out. At first he contacted various individuals using his psychic powers and amongst other things established the Cult of the Damned which served as his agents in spreading the plague of undeath. Only after all that had transpired did the Scourge start containing Humans (and Blood Elves following Arthas' invasion into Quel'Thas).
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Schleimhaut: First of all, the Humans that later joined the Scourge (but did not make it) were not cursed by the plague, they were infected by it, while some joined voluntarily and are still alive.
The Burning Legion did not take the plague of undeath to Azeroth per-se. The plague didn't exist before Ner'zhul establishing himself on Northrend. The Man'ari Eredar (Kil'jaeden and Archimonde amongst others) came from Argus while to my knowledge the origin of Sargeras is not known. Kil'jaeden manipulated the Orcs I don't believe he ever "cursed them to make more minions". The Eredar supreme commanders were but two - Kil'jaeden and Archimonde - not five. Of course only the former remains at this time after the events of Warcraft 3:ROC. While saying the Orcs were summoned by the Dark Portal is not entirely true, I won't go into detail on that one.
The purpose behind the Burning Legion's invasion into Azeroth was not to "make even more minions and to gain more power" but to continue it's mission which is to undo the order of the Titans. Had the Burning Legion won, it is more likely that all life on the planet would've been eradicated than enslaved. Archimonde and the Burning Legion that joined him on Azeroth did not create the scourge. Ner'zhul/Kil'jaeden did. The former was far from Lordaeron - up in Northrend as previously stated - while the latter did not set one foot upon Azeroth during the third war. Archimonde did not use a Voodoo spell to bring down Dalaran (which is not the city Lordaeron but a different one) as Voodoo in the Warcraft universe is the magic used by Trolls. The wizards of Dalaran were furthermore not made undead, they simply just died when the city came crashing upon them. You seem to have fused the destruction of Dalaran, the events of Stratholme and the destruction of Lordaeron into one event.
The Forsaken were not created until at least one year had passed since Warcraft 3:RoC happened. Thus the undead created in Lordaeron all followed the Lich King. The Forsaken were created when the Lich King was weakened and lost control of some of his forces which then made up the faction of the Forsaken.
Post by
visas
where are you getting this info?
Ner'zhul was never a warchief. The warchief of the horde during the time they attacked the draenei and invaded azeroth was Orgrim doomhammer.
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Thana
where are you getting this info?
Ner'zhul was never a warchief. The warchief of the horde during the time they attacked the draenei and invaded azeroth was Orgrim doomhammer.
The Elder Shaman Ner'zhul was the Warchief of Draenor, the clans that remained uncaptured after the Dark Portal was destroyed in Azeroth.
Can be found on
http://www.wowwiki.com/Ner%27zhul
@topic: Everyone is corruptable. The Draenei are no exception. Look at M'uru and how he/she/it became corrupted... You know M'uru? A Naaru, the noble race of light. And there are other corrupted Naaru in Outland.
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moomoodeadcow
like this?
http://azazel1944.deviantart.com/art/Delaini-57422484
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