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Who Should The Big Bad Of WoD Really Be?
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Post by
OneLonelyPickle
Because I hope to the Old Gods it ain't Garrosh, and it would be really silly for it to be Grom since his son was the big bad last expack, so who should be the end boss of WoD? I post this here in L&RP because I'm interested in what people think will happen in WoD and who will really come out on top at the end... that is, before we have to beat them.
My bet's on someone related to the Burning Legion (but not Sargeras yet, obviously) so things can (hopefully!) lead into the next expack being Burning Legion themed.
Post by
Adamsm
Since Gul'dan and the Shadowmoon are corrupted by the Legion, the answers already fairly obvious.
Post by
Rankkor
Because I hope to the Old Gods it ain't Garrosh
On blizzcon the devs said it wouldn't be garrosh. Garrosh would only set things in motion but its no longer his story, nor does he has any major part on it. He probably will be a minor 5man boss, or maybe Scenario boss. If he's really unlucky, he's gonna be offed in a quest like a dog.
and it would be really silly for it to be Grom since his son was the big bad last expack
Since Gul'dan and the Shadowmoon are corrupted by the Legion, the answers already fairly obvious.
They also said that the main villain will not be an orc, or a demon, so I guess its a surprise. Since they said no orcs, that rules out Grom and Gul'dan.
so who should be the end boss of WoD? I post this here in L&RP because I'm interested in what people think will happen in WoD and who will really come out on top at the end... that is, before we have to beat them.
Me thinks is gonna be that draenei girl they compared to Joan of Arc. Dunno why, but blizzard seems to have a fascination with making women go evil, and they're making a big fuss over how important this draenei girl will be (
Yrel
is her name) so I somehow think she's gonna be the main bad guy. Mind you, this is pure dumb speculation on my part with zero proof other than simple gut feeling.
My bet's on someone related to the Burning Legion (but not Sargeras yet, obviously) so things can (hopefully!) lead into the next expack being Burning Legion themed.
I dunno, this expansion seems pretty legion isolated, in this continuity the legion utterly failed to corrupt the orc clans (except for the shadowmoon) and I don't see them mounting a major staging attack against both the Iron Horde, Draenei, Horde, and Alliance. They'd get stomped into goo.
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Post by
Adamsm
Rank I have a feeling it's gonna go from Iron Horde to the Legion fairly quickly, just because of the fact that Gul'dan still pulled off the demon blood drinking...and supposedly something was let slip at Blizzcon that ruined it, but I've never been able to find the slip.
Post by
Rankkor
Rank I have a feeling it's gonna go from Iron Horde to the Legion fairly quickly, just because of the fact that Gul'dan still pulled off the demon blood drinking...and supposedly something was let slip at Blizzcon that ruined it, but I've never been able to find the slip.
I'm only basing myself off the Q&A session where someone was concerned over making yet another expansion with a main bad guy being an orc, and one of the devs said that the final antagonist is "most definetly not an orc". They even made a comparison of how prominent the mogu threat was at the beginning of MoP but by the end that threat was dealt with and we had an even bigger problem on our hands.
So yeah, unlikely that Gul'dan is the final boss. He's undoubtedly A boss (either for a dungeon or a raid) but not THE boss of the expansion. Neither is Garrosh, nor Grom.
I'd quote the line itself, but frankly....... I don't feel like sifting trough almost 4 to 5 hours of footage =/
Terokk
Please?
One can only hope :P that would be an interesting angle. If not the final boss, at the very least a middle boss like the Thunder King was in MoP.
Post by
w3maniak
My tip?
Purely speculation, but here it goes:
Iron horde forms, and being dealt with at the expansion's raid tier, maybe only partially. Meanwhile, Gul'dan is furious, his plans wrecked, and Kil'Jaeden seriously pissed off. So Guldan begs for mercy and time (isn't it what all these guys do?) to turn the flow of things back to his way, and his hope coming in the fact that first wave of destruction was stopped (if it wasn't there would be not much of both Draenor and azeroth left to fight for) which Gul'dan uses to try turn orc's hopes for Conquest to demonic power. Orcs, knowing from our timeline how bad deal it was, refuse. Gul'dan goes mad and raging, gathers his crazy followers (Stormreaver clan) and decides to get things done by force. (that would make Stormreaver Clan guys like Dentarg, Blackheart and some notable warlocks bosses in next raid. Not Gul'dan.) When this fails, KJ sends Talgath and elite squad of Eredar and Demons to reach his goals. Last raid would then have Gul'dan, Cho'Gall and maybe Mannoroth as important bosses and Talgath as last one. Presumably, as with SoO, first part would contain remains of Orc/Ogre followers of legion (thus Gul'dan being boss like Sha of Pride), then dealing with agents of legion.
Edit: Fixed a mistake with Gul'dan's clan. According to WoD site, Gul'dan belongs to Stormreaver clan which I thought was created later on Azeroth. WoD timeline apparently set that in motion sooner.
Post by
Adamsm
Rank I have a feeling it's gonna go from Iron Horde to the Legion fairly quickly, just because of the fact that Gul'dan still pulled off the demon blood drinking...and supposedly something was let slip at Blizzcon that ruined it, but I've never been able to find the slip.
I'm only basing myself off the Q&A session where someone was concerned over making yet another expansion with a main bad guy being an orc, and one of the devs said that the final antagonist is "most definetly not an orc". They even made a comparison of how prominent the mogu threat was at the beginning of MoP but by the end that threat was dealt with and we had an even bigger problem on our hands.
So yeah, unlikely that Gul'dan is the final boss. He's undoubtedly A boss (either for a dungeon or a raid) but not THE boss of the expansion. Neither is Garrosh, nor Grom.
I'd quote the line itself, but frankly....... I don't feel like sifting trough almost 4 to 5 hours of footage =/
I never said it was going to be Gul'dan as the Final Boss; I meant the fact that Gul'dan and the Stormreavers are still corrupted shows that we're probably gonna end up with the Legion making a serious show at some point.
Post by
Rankkor
One thing to consider is that they said this is gonna be a pretty unique expansion because it wont be a self-contained story. The plot of WoD is gonna "spill over" to the next expansion.
I'll be honest, I'm REALLY curious in how they intend to do that (I just hope they don't do what they did in MoP and Wrath which is to not let us kill the main bad guy)
Post by
Adamsm
Which is why I'm betting on a Legion Finale to this one.
Post by
Stabhorn
If Kil'Jaedan or some other Legion guy was the final boss, what would it matter if we killed him? Our realities version of KJ would be perfectly fine.
Post by
morginar
It is said that Gul'dan is working with the Void. So it is possible we might se Dimensius and get some void lore.
Or it is the old god we see summoned in Shadowmoon.
Just two more cards to the table.
And I so want to see a item called Khadgars pipe of insight in the game!
Post by
Lordplatypus
(I just hope they don't do what they did in MoP and Wrath which is to not let us kill the main bad guy)
Wrath let you deal the finishing blow.
It's Cata that didn't.
Post by
Rankkor
(I just hope they don't do what they did in MoP and Wrath which is to not let us kill the main bad guy)
Wrath let you deal the finishing blow.
It's Cata that didn't.
who cares who delivered the final hit? The point is the Lich King is still there, sure its in another "host" but there is still a scourge, a lich king, a cult of the damned. Which means they're all gonna come back.
In cata at least deathwing is gone. And as for not being able to deliver the finishing blow, that's how the game has always been.
Kil'jaeden? Yeah we didn't delivered squat, it was Kalecgos/Aveena who were responsible for banishing him. Illidan getting his comeuppance? Yeah we didn't delivered squat, it was Maiev who did it, we only "helped her" to do it.
Even in wrath we didn't delivered any finishing blow, it was tirion who shattered Frostmourne long after we were all killed, and Terenas was the one who had to get our asses up, and then him and all the souls inside frostmourne held the Lich King for us to deliver the beating and even then, canonically, it was Tirion who dealt the last hit to him. And as usual, we only "helped him"
Post by
Monday
Well, yeah. "Tirion Fordring dueled the Lich King atop Icecrown Citadel, on the Frozen Throne itself, before dealing the final blow with the holy Ashbringer," sounds
way
cooler than "The Lich King was mobbed by the top 10/25 soldiers of the campaign and beaten to death."
Post by
Rankkor
Well, yeah. "Tirion Fordring dueled the Lich King atop Icecrown Citadel, on the Frozen Throne itself, before dealing the final blow with the holy Ashbringer," sounds
way
cooler than "The Lich King was mobbed by the top 10/25 soldiers of the campaign and beaten to death."
yeah I'm not complaining about being always second-fiddle to major lore figures (that's to be expected on almost any major MMORPG) I'm just upset at blizzard adding that needless plot-twist out of nowhere (There must always be a lich king) and then repeating the same thing in MoP by not letting us kill garrosh.
I'm hoping whoever ends up being the main bad guy in WoD, blizzard allows us to F#$%& KILL THE BASTARD rather than simply defeat him and have to deal with him again.
Post by
Monday
Ah, gotcha.
Post by
Maniac21
Has anyone considered that it might be Kairoz? The rogue Bronze dragon who is technically responsible for all this?
Half of me thinks that all this is a weird attempt by him to convince Nozdormu that there ARE such things as alternate realities, that he doesn't HAVE to become Murozond. But that just my wish.
Post by
Rankkor
Has anyone considered that it might be Kairoz? The rogue Bronze dragon who is technically responsible for all this?
Half of me thinks that all this is a weird attempt by him to convince Nozdormu that there ARE such things as alternate realities, that he doesn't HAVE to become Murozond. But that just my wish.
Nozdormu is already aware of the alternate realities, and in all of them he becomes murozond. The reality were we kill him is one such alternate reality where the old gods won and azeroth was destroyed.
Also Kairoz seems very low key to be the final boss. I could believe him being an instance, or even raid boss, but final boss? Unlikely.
Post by
Stabhorn
I have a feeling that the final boss for this expansion is going to be someone we'll never expect!
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