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Post by
rmalheiros
There are some things Wowhead Profiler can improve.
Enchants scale down with char level. It's working on enchant page but not on Profiler
We can't set equipment as "Challenge Mode" on Profiler
Enchants and gems could have better sorting options
Profiler allowed me to add a Polearm and a Shield on a Blood DK
Post by
perculia
Challenge Mode is a real pain to do--we offer a scaling checkbox on pages with the caveat that it may change based on hit caps...and the Profiler requires we see how hit/expertise interacts among all your gear. We've investigated doing that, and there are some inconsistencies between what the devs say your gear should do, and what it actually does in an instance. It's really complicated for now, but if things get simplified we can see about adding it.
The gems and enchant windows
got a revamp in October
for easier sorting. If you have specific ideas on how they could be improved, let us know--we already did a round of improvements :)
Post by
Medrux
The random stat bracers from ToT are still broken.
Frostborn Wristwraps
Heroic Thunderforged version only show Haste and Expertise
Bracers of the Midnight Comet
Heroic version show +0 for every stat
Heroic Thunderforged version only have 3 stats (Haste, Expertise and Hit) and those 3 show +0
Loa-Ridden Bracers
Heroic Thunderforged version is missing Mastery
Beady-Eye Bracers
Thunderforged version shows every stat +0
Heroic version shows every stat +0
Heroic Thunderforged version only have 3 stats (Haste, Expertise and Hit) and those 3 show +0
Caustic Spike Bracers
Heroic Thunderforged version only have 1 stat (Hit) and that stat show +0
Bracers of Constant Implosion
Heroic Thunderforged version shows every stat +0
Post by
perculia
Throne of Thunder random stat items are a little weird and I know our devs had to fiddle a bit to get them to display on the item pages, as each enchantment doesn't have a special name. This probably accounts for the +0.
As for some heroic thunderforged items not showing all versions, this is probably tied to how we process user data, maybe we overwhelmingly get one or two really good stats uploaded, and it's already a relatively small pool of users between heroic raiding and the low thunderforged chance. Maybe we can look into tweaking how we process the user data.
Post by
rmalheiros
Challenge Mode is a real pain to do--we offer a scaling checkbox on pages with the caveat that it may change based on hit caps...and the Profiler requires we see how hit/expertise interacts among all your gear. We've investigated doing that, and there are some inconsistencies between what the devs say your gear should do, and what it actually does in an instance. It's really complicated for now, but if things get simplified we can see about adding it.
How about ignoring hit/expertise for challenge mode?
The gems and enchant windows
got a revamp in October
for easier sorting. If you have specific ideas on how they could be improved, let us know--we already did a round of improvements :)
I like how gems are being sorted. I'd like enchants to be sorted by expansion or stats.
Post by
PriestessAur
Hey there, I tried out the new profiler a bit when it first launched but didn't really play with it much. I sat down to try and actually use it this weekend and wanted to give some feedback.
In no particular order:
1. Where is the archaeology information? I was really hoping the profiler would give me info on what projects I have completed\yet to complete and possibly their progress. You guys seem to have skipped Archeology all together.
2. Exclusions should load automatically and be filtered from the All view. For instance, when I bring up Quests, I am seeing Not Counteds in the default view. I think this would help load times as well. Right now the initial Quest list takes too long to load.
3. I am not sure I like how Exclusions carry over to all tabs. For instance, I have "requires opposite faction" set to Excluded which is very important for quests, but for mounts\pets I want to see opposite faction items since they are account wide.
4. Please include a Select All\Deselect All option. I beg you! The limit of 10 selects is a pain especially doing any kind of mass inclusion\exclusion. I should be able to filter and "select all" then exclude\include.
5. Pets - Pet tracking is one of the more useful features for me, so it is one I have played with the most.
*Non-Battle pet tracking is inconsistent. Some of them are marked Complete and others are not. IMO, they should be given an option to exclude.
* Add the function to exclude duplicates. Duplicates skew completion data. I personally like the method used by another very popular pet tracking fan site (not sure if I can use names here)
* Filtering by source - I tried to make a ' !="Pet Battle" ' type filter and I might be doing it wrong, but couldn't get it to work. Wowhead documentation on these filters is lacking or difficult to find.
* Currently there is no way to filter\sort by quality. I would like to suggest adding this.
6. Please allow manual override of complete\non complete status. Some of your data is not accurate, things are marked incomplete that are completed, etc. I would rather correct the status than just mark it as not counted.
Post by
perculia
So there's some good feedback here we'll try to incorporate. We're working on other site projects, but the enchant window, Select All, and Blood DK weapons should be an easy fix.
As for Challenge Modes, I think it might lead to more confusion if we ignored hit/expertise and then users thought the Profiler was broken and returning different values than what you see when you zone into a Challenge Mode. There's already a lot of confusion over data assumed to be inaccurate when it's an issue with Blizzard's API, and that's not fair to the tool, and I don't want to add to misconceptions.
Archaeology projects were removed over the summer when we had to redo the Profiler in order for it to work after our big server migration. They aren't handled the same way as other professions and it just didn't work with how we had to rebuild the tool on the new server. We investigated how many users used the old archaeology section, and it was pretty low, so we thought it seemed safe to skip over as we tried to make everything else work on the new server.
Post by
JhonnyB
How can i find upgrades for my char?
In the old one i click find upgrades...thats it.
Now i must click on the item...find upgrade...what class? why what class? isn't it clear?...then on german....don't like that...
Post by
Medrux
Cant add cloaks and offhands now :(
Post by
Talonos
1. Where is the archaeology information? I was really hoping the profiler would give me info on what projects I have completed\yet to complete and possibly their progress. You guys seem to have skipped Archeology all together.
if i remember rightly this information isn't available from blizzard anymore and it doesn't even display over on the battle.net armory
battle.net profile - Archaeology
i only remember this as i myself was trying to build a list of incomplete items and still to this day havn't
5. Pets - Pet tracking is one of the more useful features for me, so it is one I have played with the most.
*Non-Battle pet tracking is inconsistent. Some of them are marked Complete and others are not. IMO, they should be given an option to exclude.
this is a problem from blizzards side. "companions" have issues like "faction only" and some are not even passed on in the details to wowhead like darkmoon balloon i like the idea of "exclude pets that cannot battle" as info is iffy and they cant battle anyways.
Post by
perculia
We added some improvements based on user feedback, thanks for the suggestions. The biggest one is enchant/gem scaling on low-level Armory characters, which also now works on the item comparison tool. Here's some other tweaks:
Throne of Thunder random stat items should be fixed--all suffixes are options, and they display correct values.
Some recent fixes caused cloaks/offhands not to equip, this is fixed.
Custom profiles now have smarter weapon selection--before you could select any weapon regardless of class on a custom profile, and now it's in-line with what you can equip.
Rarity column for sorting has been added to battle pets.
Enchant window has been improved, we choose to add filters for stats instead of expansion due to level requirements removed and scaling in 5.4.
We're going to try to make the update character button more obvious since we've been getting feedback that the green circular arrows aren't totally clear.
Post by
HellsGeneral
Before I start I just wanted to say how amazing the new profile system is and the amazing things that it can track. I Love it! I also do not know if any of these suggestions have been posted yet. Here is a link to my profile incase you need it
HellsGeneral
Here are a couple suggestions for how to make it even better.
1) Trade skills/Recipe Tracking:
a) Make a way to report recipes or line items that show up in your different areas, i.e. a recipe that is no longer attainable showing up even though you filtered it out. Have this option to report something as a clickable button on the item's page with options as to why you are reporting the item.
b) In the incomplete area you could have a separate breakdown for how recipes are obtained, like vendor, world drop, reputation. Instead of having to click on each individual one.
c) There should be a way to exclude Thistle Tea and Dirge's Kickin' Chimaerok Chops from the list, as the no longer obtainable exclusion is not working.
2) Mounts - Even though I filter out cross factions mounts and the like, the old alliance mounts and other alliance only mounts in general keep showing up on my "not collected" mount list. In addition mounts keep showing up that are no longer obtainable by players even thought I have it filtered out. For example, Flying Broom will show up even though it should not be considered a mount. In addition, Swift Zulian Tiger will show up even though I have no longer obtainable mounts excluded.
3) Achievements - Similar problem to the mounts, alliance achievements will show up in my horde characters achievement list.
4) Titles - Same problem as the other areas, titles that are no longer obtainable or require opposite faction will still show up in the list even though I have both filtered out in my exclusions.
5) Reputations - Similar problem with faction reputations that my character cannot acquire because of being horde show up in the list. In addition, some "undefined" reputations show up as well. Also Nat Pagle's rep does not track properly.
6) Quests - similar problem as other areas, cross faction quests are showing up even though I have them excluded.
6) Additions - Tabard Tracker, A system that can list your Warcraftlogs or Worldoflogs posts for you character
I hope these suggestoins/feedback helps you improve and polish the profiler system! Keep up the awesome work!
Post by
perculia
Thanks for the recipe tips, there are a few more recipes I will be adding to the exclusion filter besides the cooking ones like the original Naxxramas frost resistance recipes. I'll also see if we can add a source column for recipes as well, like we do for mounts, that's a great idea.
We do have a feedback option on every page (top right, next to user name) that has several feedback topics to choose from, and you can leave a note as well with further details. When a feedback report is made, we get an email linking to the page the report was filed on which I think is similar to what you're suggesting. So you could just visit a recipe's page and leave a report that this recipe shows up in your Profiler even though you think it shouldn't be, and we could figure it out.
Friendships such as Nat Pagle aren't tracked correctly due to an issue on Blizzard's end. If you check Pagle's reputation on Blizzard's site, you'll see it's incorrectly displaying there as well.
I tried replicating a lot of the opposite-faction issues but I might need more help narrowing it down. Can you send screenshots to ? Here's what I got when I checked:
For achievements: when I select "All" it shows everything including the opposite-faction achievements (marked as Not Counted), and when I filter for Complete/Incomplete it shows only achievements for my faction. I can't find any Alliance achievements that show up in your Complete/Incomplete achievement lists, and Horde ones on my Alliance character.
Quests: this may be the same thing--opposite-faction quests show up in "All" but their completion status is "Not Counted."
Mounts--opposite-faction mounts show up as incomplete by default and when I apply the Manage Exclusion filter, those mounts get pulled to 'Not Counted'--but will show up under "All" if that's selected. Based on popular requests, people wanted mounts they collected from excluded categories to show up under Complete to boost their totals, while hiding other ones they didn't collect. Maybe they got lucky with a TCG code and want to see they've collected it, but they're not interested in spending more money and would prefer the other TCG mounts to be hidden. You can still choose to hide mounts you've collected from Excluded categories by clicking the checkbox to the left of the icon and then "Exclude" at the top of the list.
For reputation I'm not seeing any reps marked as Alliance-side on your Profile (or Horde on mine), but I did see an issue on my Profile where both the Pearlfin Jinyu and Forest Hozen showed up (as both are marked as neutral currently.) Is this your issue, or is it affecting more reps?
For titles: I'm noticing a problem with the Hordebreaker title showing up on your list, which I believe is due to us not flagging it as a Horde-only title. I can't find any other examples either on your character or my Alliance one, so if there's more let me know. Normally opposite-faction titles don't display at all.
For future suggestions like a Tabard Tracker--it's a cool idea and we're very interested in the Toybox feature coming in WoD. We want to do more things with tracking vanity items but have to see what the data changes are like first.
Thanks for the feedback!
Post by
perculia
We've added removed recipes to the 'Not available to players' filter and made the Hordebreaker title Alliance-only. The code for a Recipe Source column is also complete, and should be live Monday.
Post by
Medrux
Adding offhands seem to be broken again
Post by
perculia
Do you have a link? Just added it to
this test profile
.
Post by
Medrux
I figured it out, just me being thick. Sorry!
*Edit
Actually, you can't add offhands with wands. It worked with a dagger so i thought there was no problem but when i tried to add it with a wand the page was blank
Post by
perculia
Thanks for narrowing it down, we'll take a look at it next week :) My guess is that it's viewing all ranged weapons as 2H ones.(##RESPBREAK##)2##DELIM##perculia##DELIM##
Post by
kerluna
After my server merged with another, the profiler can't seem to find any of my characters on Battle.net. Says they don't exist.
Post by
perculia
This is an issue on Blizzard's end--we get character details from Battle.net and when I look up "arzenara" there, the character page is broken. I'll try to make sure they're aware of it.
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