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[3.1] The Arcane Mage Thread
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nickseng
I've added a link section to the original post. :)
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nickseng
I actually disagree about this point, yobo.
For an Arcane Mage, haste is not a stat you'd want to be looking at. Point for point, spell hit, Intellect, +damage and crit always gives more than haste does.
The reason for this is because of the nature of Arcane spells, that is, huge DPS for huge mana costs. Haste will only increase the mana ineffeciency of the Arcane spells. While it might increase the DPS somewhat, in the long term, it's not really worth it. AB does enough damage as it is, and we really want to control our mana usage.
The other reason is that without a
huge
amount of haste rating, you will run into the problem where you will be unable to cast AB due to your casting time being shorter than the GCD
Most top raiding Arcane Mages forgo Haste altogether, with the exception of Icy Veins, since it's controllable.
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when ur a arcane mage the icy veins arent so much recomendet there are only a few spels taht have cast time and since u have Presense of mind u prakticly dont need it so this is my idea of both PvP and PvE
arcane bild
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oi0EcoczxIuioEM0z
Lulwut? gtfo mage forums.
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nickseng
Just an update, I'm thinking that my initial post isn't that well formatted. Also I probably need to add some more info on raid builds and how to play 2.4 Arcane. I'm swamped at work this week though. Hopefully, I'll have some time next week to reformat it. :)
I wish I had the forethought to reserve some space for future posts.
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Thanks, that'd be great :D
I'll let you know once I've redone the thing.
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I am mage (currently fire spec tho i have ENG and not tailoring.....go ahead laugh.....idc.......i like my gogles.) my guild is farming kara, grulls, and mags. we are making our way into SSC. we kill lurker on a weekly basis and have downed hydross once. we have yet to down Leo but we have gotten close. I am at par with most the other mages in my guild even without the tailoring set. (i think the tailoring set is just a fat@$$ shortcut) i have the current fire spec and i can keep well with mana using this. ive used all the specs and The 3 minute mage was the most enjoyable. Here is a custom that i used. i want to raid with Arcane but i don't want to lack DPS so much that im not good. i don't have T5 gear and that is when arcane is best from what i hear.
please tell me if this build is any good for DPS and tell me if i can improve it to be better.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oixVcoczxIuioxg0z
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I am mage (currently fire spec tho i have ENG and not tailoring.....go ahead laugh.....idc.......i like my gogles.) my guild is farming kara, grulls, and mags. we are making our way into SSC. we kill lurker on a weekly basis and have downed hydross once. we have yet to down Leo but we have gotten close. I am at par with most the other mages in my guild even without the tailoring set. (i think the tailoring set is just a fat@$$ shortcut) i have the current fire spec and i can keep well with mana using this. ive used all the specs and The 3 minute mage was the most enjoyable. Here is a custom that i used. i want to raid with Arcane but i don't want to lack DPS so much that im not good. i don't have T5 gear and that is when arcane is best from what i hear.
please tell me if this build is any good for DPS and tell me if i can improve it to be better.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=oixVcoczxIuioxg0z
Well, in order to top Fire DPS, 2pT5 is highly recommended. It's still possible without, but it's gonna require a lot more effort, gearing and group composition.
First of all, to play Arcane, it's all about mana management. The more mana you have, the more damage you dish out. Several ways to do that is to stack Int/Spirit for mana regen, and/or get a great composition. Shadow Priests, Judgement of Wisdom, Curse of Shadows, Innervate are all buffs that are highly benificial to you. If you somehow manage to be in a group that can give you all that, your DPS sky-rockets.
You start by spamming AB as much as possible. Pot, Gem or evocate when you get low. When you get to the point where your mana pool is low, and everything is on cooldown, switch to low mana spell (usually Frostbolt, but in your case, scorch or Fireball will do) in order to regenerate mana and till your cooldown is up. Remember to cast AB every 6 seconds to keep the debuff up.
Once you regenerate enough mana, spam AB again.
RE: your build. It's ok, but you might benifit from 40/0/21 from the double Icy Veins.
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For anyone reading this post and serious about raiding as arcane I'd recommend reading the thread I've linked as it is a pretty in depth guide to raiding as arcane and as nickseng has stated this guide was written pre 2.4.
One thing especially is that arcane blast spam is definitely where arcane dps comes from, arcane missiles are perhaps a good 10% behind frostbolt or fireball comparing a fully talented arcane mage to a fully talented frost/fire mage. There's a few other things I could say but in the thread all this is said in more detail so if you're interested then read that.
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t25772-mage_raiding_arcane_mage_post_2_4_a/
I've actually linked to this in the original post. :D
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Finally updated the info and formatting. :)
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