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1031591
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Post by
Adamsm
Okay....and?
Post by
BlackMonarch
I second the OP's sentiments for different reasons. NPCs like Zuni and Lilian Voss keep stealing my kills, and I'm not allowed to loot the corpses because Blizzard thinks that I might be a bot. It really pisses me off.
Post by
Magician22773
I just discovered that actually hitting your face on your desk hurts.
Post by
yukonjack
I just discovered that actually hitting your face on your desk hurts.
Keep doing it after awhile you won't feel a thing.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
I am...not quite understanding what the OP is saying.
1) Do you think that the reason that the mount is acting buggy for you has something to do with botting? What leads you to assume this? I haven't seen any issues with other passenger mounts since the patch, and I've used my Sandstone drake a fair bit. Is the person who is riding you going afk, and that's knocking them off? I could see that, to prevent people from carrying other people and leveling them by proxy while they're AFK. But if not, then what connection do you think it has to the anti-botting measures?
2) Why would you call it "mutilating" a game to make you have to actually actively play it for it to function. I think that multi-boxing is an unintended but not banned phenomenon in WoW, and certainly don't think it's something that they do, or should, design around. The game is designed to be played live by a single player. They might let you get away with a certain degree of automation when it comes to multi-boxing since it's technically "live" play, but if they make changes to make gameplay better and fairer when the game is used in its intended manner, if it makes things more challenging for people who are using it in a way it wasn't designed to be used, that's just kind of how it goes. Some people consider it "mutilating" the game to allow people to multi-box in the first place.
3) I don't think they need to make a distinction between combat bots and non-combat bots. If you are setting up your computer to play any aspect of the game for you, you're gaining an unfair advantage over people. You are getting the benefit of honor, gold, materials to use or sell, etc. that you're not earning. I think it's more than reasonable for there to be measures in to force people to play the game live in every instance, not just combat ones.
@BlackMonarch- as long as you get at least one active hit off on a mob, even if your pet does the rest of the damage you're be able to loot it. They just don't want you going afk and letting your pet or quest companion kill everything without you, and then you showing up every once in a while to loot.
Post by
lonewolfe31705
Blizzard's war against bots does not make a distinction between "combottants" and civilians. Many functions in the game, very often related to interact with target or the follow commands, are intentionally made to malfunction to make it difficult for users to put the game on autopilot: the so-called unmanned playing. I have no idea how serious the problem is, but it must be if blizzard does not mind mutilating its own game to fight this phenomenon.
I have been playing this game since Vanilla, and have never had an issue using the /follow command unless someone tried to get me stuck on a fence/lightpost/etc.
Multiboxers, a legitimate group of players who play more than one account at the same time, are the first to suffer.
In my opinion,
GOOD!
Multiboxers are fine when they are off doing quests, 5 mans, raids, whatever...as soon as they step foot in a BG, they deserve every pain in the rear issue they get. They break the game worse than it already is....
Sorry, tired of getting roflstomped by a holy pally and his 4 autopilot DKs on my server.
But now it seems that nobody is safe from the anti-bots bombs in the game. If you have participated in the RAF program and gotten a free mount you probably have experienced the curious and inexplicable fact that the character to which you are giving a ride, suddenly drops off to the ground.(for those who do not know it, the raf mount permits you to take another player/character for a ride).
This is a known issue due to the new cross realm zones from everything I have been reading. Even when I am flying on my solo mount, I have randomly been dismounted going between zones.
Blizzard was so kind as to provide for an automatic parachute so that the "droppee" does not immediately fall to its death. But since it happens randomly, there is no way to know where it ends up... Thank you blizzard!
If you are AFK flying and lose your passenger and can't find them, that sounds more like your issue for going AFK. On the positive side, you do have the RAF summons twice an hour so it shouldn't be an issue to find them or visa versa.
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331902
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Post by
Nulgar
the curious and inexplicable fact that the character to which you are giving a ride, suddenly drops off to the ground.
Sure this wasn't phasing?
Post by
Interest
the curious and inexplicable fact that the character to which you are giving a ride, suddenly drops off to the ground.
Sure this wasn't phasing?
That does sound awfully like a phasing issue. I've heard some accounts of it with mulch-passanger mounts.
Post by
pabadin
curiously and inexplicably i never lost a passenger during phasing. And most cases happened while NOT AFK!
And even if it was during AFK, that does not make it right. If you have the right to take a passenger, then you should be able to travel as far and as long as you want.
Post by
Nulgar
Or it simply was a bug. Not every odd behavior of the game is a countermeasure to cheating/botting.
I recently made a second account to get the rocket before it went away, and I occasionally powerlevel a char on that account since I thought hey, I could boost my upcoming
Monk
alt with that char, to get something out of that account, and I never experienced problems with 2-seat mounts, even if the other char was AFK for a while.
Post by
BlackMonarch
as long as you get at least one active hit off on a mob
You've never had to escort Ms. Voss to her dear old daddy, have you?
Trust me, you're lucky if you can tag even half of those Scarlet buttholes before she unleashes insta-ownage on everything within a half-mile.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
as long as you get at least one active hit off on a mob
You've never had to escort Ms. Voss to her dear old daddy, have you?
Trust me, you're lucky if you can tag even half of those Scarlet buttholes before she unleashes insta-ownage on everything within a half-mile.
Ok- so how important is the vendor trash from half the non-elite mobs during a handful of quests? My pet does occasionally kill things without me, but overall it's not a huge deal. I'd rather that then have to compete on the AH with people who leave themselves afk in rapid spawn points on hunters, and let their pets do all the work, and show up every couple of minutes just to loot. Or bot it to auto-loot.
Post by
BlackMonarch
Some of us have Obsessive-Compulsive Resource-Gathering Disorder and have to loot every single corpse and resource node regardless of the relative benefits of doing so. It's why I can't put Mining and Herbalism on the same character anymore; I'd get stuck in the Eastern part of Hillsbrad Foothills harvesting resources for hours until the minimap was finally free of little yellow dots.
Meanwhile, botters are going to bot with or without this mechanic. The only difference is that now they're running around stealing my copper and peacebloom instead of cleaning the Naga out of that cave on the Echo Isles.
I'd actually prefer that the mobs in certain areas be made un-lootable regardless of who does the killing, like when the player and Belmont are cruising around Gilneas looking for Godfrey's corpse and you can't loot the Worgen.
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331902
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
BlackMonarch
I'd actually prefer that the mobs in certain areas be made un-lootable
From your posts it sounds to me like you just want it all
Reading comprehension fail.
Botters are taking YOUR Copper and Peacebloom.
I got news for you, you are not entitled to a single thing you mentioned, so you should quit QQing.
Botters are scum, report them, but don't be under the illusion they are stealing anything from you personally.
The part about "my" copper and peacebloom was not meant to be taken so seriously. I don't mind being beaten to a resource node, even if it's by a bot. Why? Because at least SOMEONE is benefiting from the harvest. This is a completely different situation from Blizzard's anti-bot measures, where corpses that would otherwise be lootable are instead going to waste.
Post by
pabadin
Many people seem to miss the main point: Blizzard is selling a defect product, or more accurately, it is making it intentionally defect and selling it. Whether you like multiboxing or not is besides the point. It is a legitimate group of users who pay for each of their accounts, and they are entitled to a normally functioning game like everybody else. And for the person who gave the first reaction: " now and?" my only answer would be another question: i guess you never went to law school?
Post by
Adamsm
And for the person who gave the first reaction: " now and?" my only answer would be another question: i guess you never went to law school?
If that's in reference to my 'Okay and....?' comment which was more about the fact that it's nearly impossible to read what the OP is saying, I'd suggest you reference the Terms of Service that we all agree to when we purchase and play this game: If Blizzard truly wanted to, they could shut down all of the WoW servers tomorrow, and all those people, such as myself, who spent real money for pixels, would be ^&*! out of luck.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Many people seem to miss the main point: Blizzard is selling a defect product, or more accurately, it is making it intentionally defect and selling it. Whether you like multiboxing or not is besides the point. It is a legitimate group of users who pay for each of their accounts, and they are entitled to a normally functioning game like everybody else. And for the person who gave the first reaction: " now and?" my only answer would be another question: i guess you never went to law school?
Here's an analogy for you:
Blizzard Furniture manufacturers makes this really popular 3-legged stool, that a lot of people buy for its intended purpose, which is for one person to sit on. A very small group of circus performers have found that they can, because of the design of the stool, stack five of them together to make a platform that looks dangerous but is really very sturdy, and they use it in their act as a place to perform acrobatics. They are legitimate users of the stool of course, because they pay for it, but they're using it in a way that it wasn't actually designed to be used.
Blizzard then changes the stool to have four legs. They have found that, in terms of one-person sitting on it, this is a more sturdy design, safer, and the stool will last longer. However, it throws the point of balance off so that they no long stack the way they did and it makes it much harder for circus performers to do their tricks with 5 of the stools.
Has Blizzard Furniture designed a defective product? If they redesign it to make it better for its intended use, and as a result a fringe group who were using it in an unintended way have a harder time doing it, have they somehow done something wrong? Should they not make a stool a better stool, because of the .01% of people out there would would like to use their stools as a platform for a circus act instead? Do they have an obligation to start designing all of their stools with the idea that they also have to support clowns and acrobats, even if that makes it a less effective or more cumbersome for those using it for it's original purpose, which is for one person to sit on it?
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