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Post by
OverZealous
Did the rules change or something, cause I thought half-fishes were illegal lol; they'd have an unfair advantage =).
Still, you'll get in next time Oz, no doubt.
Haha, no one has thought to test me for fish-genes yet, so I might get lucky
^^
Thanks a bunch.The thing to worry about, though, is staying motivated for all of the next four years. It hurts a bit to be so close and miss the qualifying time, but seeing people I've practiced with compete is quite motivating, though!
Will you be looking to enter other international meets in the meantime, or just the Olympics?
I'll probably go to most EMs (European Championships) and possibly World Cup if I can sync it with my practice schedule since there is the possibility for a lot of monetary gain there, but the Olympics is definetly the primary goal. A lot of swimmers do this - participate in a few international meets but skip them if they would interfere with the training schedule for the Olympics. For example, a lot of Swedish swimmers have no registered times this year because they've been skipping every meet to not miss any practice for the Olympics.
Post by
OverZealous
I don't know what I'm watching, anymore - a Chinese swimmer no one has ever heard of around here won 400 Medley yesterday by owning everything and everyone. For reference, her last 50 metres were .13 seconds faster than that of Ryan Lochte, who won the same race for males. For those not very into swimming, that
never
happens.
Michael Phelps also got his ass kicked in the finals and did not even get a medal, and Sweden's best hope for a gold medal got owned on 100 butterfly. What is this
>.<
Post by
Nathanyal
I heard that Phelps only trained in that event for like 9 months, having thought he wasn't going to be in it this year.
Post by
donnymurph
They showed the female gymnastics today. I think it's my new favourite sport to watch. :P
Post by
OverZealous
I heard that Phelps only trained in that event for like 9 months, having thought he wasn't going to be in it this year.
It's very probably his last swimming meet ever - he's said multiple times in various places that he does not intend to continue his career after the Olympics. I'm not convinced, though - if he wins a few more medals I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Rio, as well - the man does love his medals
^^
Post by
Nathanyal
Yeah, there was a small interview they had after he competed and came in 4th. They mainly talked to his mom and sisters though, but he said he wasn't planning on going to Rio, even though his mom still wanted to go.
If he does go to Rio, I'll probably think its only for a few events. But its not like he needs to go.
And it seems some people did the math on Shiwen and Lochte last 50 and 100M:
Shiwen went 28.93 in her final 50 and 58.68 in her final 100 of her 400 IM. Lochte went 29.10 in his final 50. And the final 100 meters of the pair? Lochte went 58.65 to Shiwen's 58.68. That was such intriguing fodder that when Lochte was in the mixed zone Sunday morning, he said Shiwen had been a topic of conversation the previous night.
Article.
But there is a little talk of doping though.
Post by
gnomerdon
only thing i look forward to is
usain bolt beating his 9.58 100m record
and phelps.
along with basketball and soccer.
Post by
OverZealous
Yeah, there was a small interview they had after he competed and came in 4th. They mainly talked to his mom and sisters though, but he said he wasn't planning on going to Rio, even though his mom still wanted to go.
If he does go to Rio, I'll probably think its only for a few events. But its not like he needs to go.
And it seems some people did the math on Shiwen and Lochte last 50 and 100M:
Shiwen went 28.93 in her final 50 and 58.68 in her final 100 of her 400 IM. Lochte went 29.10 in his final 50. And the final 100 meters of the pair? Lochte went 58.65 to Shiwen's 58.68. That was such intriguing fodder that when Lochte was in the mixed zone Sunday morning, he said Shiwen had been a topic of conversation the previous night.
Article.
But there is a little talk of doping though.
I hate to admit it, but almost every one of us suspect that she, among other (Chinese) swimmers, may be doped. I'll freely admit that there is some reluctance to admit the "Chinese superiority" (our head coach used those very words last night) in the swimming community, and that there is a chance that she and the other Chinese medalists so far are just really damn good, but she didn't just win that race; she
smashed
it.
Post by
gnomerdon
china has 1.3 billion people
u.s.a. has a population of 311,591,917
it's safe to assume that an ace would pop out from china sooner than the united states.
but yes, doping may have been involved
Post by
OverZealous
china has 1.3 billion people
u.s.a. has a population of 311,591,917
it's safe to assume that an ace would pop out from china sooner than the united states.
but yes, doping may have been involved
Not necessarily - things like training regimen, quality of food and sleep, amount of food and sleep, training partners, the right coach for you et cetera all matter a lot. It's fairly well-known that China has been behind in many of those aspects and has only recently been catching up (for clarification, there has been a lot more science involved in Australian/American/European swimming than in Asian swimming until recently) We're experts at this and we know most of the up-and-comers in the swimming scene, yet many of the Chinese swimmers appear out of nowhere, suddenly crushing face. What would you say if someone from China showed up and utterly owned Usain Bolt at the 100m race? That's what happened yesterday, several times.
Post by
gnomerdon
I wouldn't be surprised at all. Anyone has the potential to win on any given day despite having a reputable track record. It's as random as it should be.
Jesse Owens
proved zeh germans wrong.
But yes, steroids test please.
Post by
Nathanyal
Yeah, China is just getting gold left and right. They got 6 so far. I'm sure there are a lot of people saying something about that. Something must have happened over there.
Post by
donnymurph
Wow. Massive choke by Australia in the men's 4x100m relay.
Massive
choke. We were being touted for a world record before the race and we ended up coming 4th. James Magnussen refused to comment about it.
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Post by
donnymurph
Man, diving would be a
really
hard sport. Especially synchronised diving.
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1000947
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Post by
OverZealous
Your guesses are as good as mine. I have no idea, and neither does my coach or his colleagues. Whatever they're doing over there, it's obviously working. I'm just saying that talent alone will not get you an Olympic medal, and Chinese training has been known to be sub-par earlier. It may have improved a lot, but logic tells me that they shouldn't be churning out
more
Olympic medalists already. But, I'm quite obviously mistaken. But honestly, if an unknown Chinese athlete won the 100m, owning Usain Bolt, what would be your first thought? Would it be "Wow, their training regimen must be working out really well" or would you be surprised more than anything?
On another note, Phelps made the worst screwup of the Olympics so far and ended up second on 200 Butterfly, where he has gotten every major gold medal for the last 11 years, as a result. I feel sorry for the guy
=/
Post by
gnomerdon
i read a comment that made me chuckle.
"all of america's state of the art equipment is mostly made in china. "
so the chinese have all of the schematics that we use to make our technology, and they can branch off from that and make a even better product to serve their own people.
plus, the united states is a public country. u can look up michael phelp's training regiment on the internet really easily. the chinese can look it up, and make better training regiments and adapt. but again, their main strength is in their numbers.
Post by
OverZealous
i read a comment that made me chuckle.
"all of america's state of the art equipment is mostly made in china. "
so the chinese have all of the schematics that we use to make our technology, and they can branch off from that and make a even better product to serve their own people.
plus, the united states is a public country. u can look up michael phelp's training regiment on the internet really easily. the chinese can look it up, and make better training regiments and adapt. but again, their main strength is in their numbers.
Sure, China might have schematics. But for the swimmers to have state-of-the-art strokemakers and hi-tech swim gear, someone has to pay for it. That's where the problem lies for the Chinese swimmers, I think. Or at least it used to. There was no one to pay for the gear since it is expensive as heck. Knowing how to make the stuff won't help you if there is no one to finance it.
And no, you can
not
look up Michael Phelps' training schedule on the internet. You can
not
look up (without excessive real life stalking, that is) what he eats, how and when he sleeps, or what specifically tailored exercises he uses to improve. All of that is strictly classified. You might be able to find a video of him doing 5x200 butterfly on a sprint session, but trust me, if I asked Michael's coach right now, even though Michael is quitting after the Olympics, he'd laugh me off. There is no way he'd tell us just like that. He just wouldn't.
But, I might be wrong. I'd really appreciate it if you could look up the training schedule (we're not just talking about "Monday 18-21" here, we're talking about exactly what exercises are part of his sessions and how much he swims) of an 18-time Olympic medalist, it could be pretty beneficial for me
^^
Post by
donnymurph
Controversy in the badminton! A bunch of heavily favoured Asian teams were booted for blatantly tanking in an attempt to manipulate the fixtures.
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