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Post by
yukonjack
The Church's view on all other religions is that they aren't 'true', there is only one truth out there and the Church just happened to hit on it.
Rather convenient isn't it.
Post by
Adamsm
The Church's view on all other religions is that they aren't 'true', there is only one truth out there and the Church just happened to hit on it.
Rather convenient isn't it.
Aye yup.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
Most that I know believe that all other religions are either A) Fictitious, B) Inspired by Satan, or C) A misunderstanding of the truth of their own religion by humans.
People I know have watched Christian documentaries about religions of various tribal cultures, and in witnessing the rituals have said "See, that's where they're getting power from the demon. It's such a real thing." So evidence of another religion having unexplained miraculous occurrences, or their beliefs seeming to be based on some higher than natural power, is assumed to be the work of Satan, and not in any way associated with another god.
Post by
Adamsm
I've been told to my face that I'm a blasphemous, horrible, vicious person who's going to go Hell when I die and burn for all eternity....and this was from a little old lady coming out of a Church who happened to see my pentacle necklace. And of course, that group of ass hats in high school who felt the need to try to beat me up for being a Wiccan. So much love and understanding.
Post by
gnomerdon
yes, that's why im a closet atheist
:l
Post by
Magician22773
The Church's view on all other religions is that they aren't 'true', there is only one truth out there and the Church just happened to hit on it.
Adamsm,
We (Christians) didn't just "happen to hit on it". Our faith centers on the belief in Christ, and that what He did, as described in the Bible is the truth. It is our belief in Him that leaves us with no way to be "accepting" of other religions.
Now, you don't believe, but I do, that Jesus was God in the flesh, that He did perform miracles here on Earth, and, most importantly, that He did rise from the grave after 3 days, as He said He would.
If you do not believe that happened, than I can see where Christianity seems like a bunch of intolerant idiots that just think
they
got it right, and everyone else got it wrong. Well, you are right....that is exactly how I believe, because I believe what the Bible says about Christ. There is
no other way
to the Father, except through belief in the finished works of Christ.
As for other Christian churches, that believe in Christ, and salvation through Him an Him alone, but practice their beliefs in a different manner, I have mixed feelings. As I have said, I choose to believe in the Bible, and specifically, as much as possible in the Gospel portion of it. Do I think Catholics are going to Hell because they worship a different way than I do...no.
I've been told to my face that I'm a blasphemous, horrible, vicious person who's going to go Hell when I die and burn for all eternity....and this was from a little old lady coming out of a Church who happened to see my pentacle necklace. And of course, that group of ass hats in high school who felt the need to try to beat me up for being a Wiccan. So much love and understanding.
Is it any better if I told you that without Christ, that you will be separated from God for an eternity, but I will pray that someday your would find your way to Him, because I would like nothing more than for you to my brother in Christ?
Post by
gnomerdon
I don't believe that Jesus was god in the flesh, performed miracles on Earth, died and rose again. (##RESPBREAK##)136##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM## Rather than expressing yourself sarcastically in one of these types of threads, you can express yourself with a normal statement.
Post by
Adamsm
And I'd ask you not to do that Magician; I'm fine with what I believe in, and I don't need someone else to pray for me at all. My life is my own, and I found my path: I am a follower of Wicca, and I will be one for the rest of my life. It's really that simple. I don't believe in the Christian God; for me, there is only the Goddess and the Hunter, and to be completely and utterly honest: That's just how I like it.
But, you believe in what you believe, and that's fine. I have no issue with that. But I do have issues when other members of the Christian church do insult me, tell me I'm going to Hell, and act like what I believe in is nothing but hocus pocus or, as I've been told by one particularly ignorant idiot, Devil Worship.
Edit: In complete and utter honesty, I actually hate when someone tells me that I'm in their prayers for not believing what they do. I can see praying for someone when they are injured or have a family member in the hospital or have an illness and the like....but when it comes to personal belief, it's not something that is wrong and needs to be prayed for: I do find that incredibly insulting to my personal belief system and do see it as someone else pushing something on me, trying to force me to change...and I truly truly hate that. My life is my own, and I don't need someone from another religion deciding that everything I personally believe in is wrong, and try to change me.
Post by
gnomerdon
i wasn't being sarcastic...
i believe in jesus, and proof of a
bigfoot
.
Post by
ElhonnaDS
i wasn't being sarcastic...
i believe in jesus, and proof of a bigfoot.
Like two posts ago you said you were an atheist...
Post by
gnomerdon
I'll stop posting in this thread until I find my real identity.
I walk and think like an atheist, but I still go through the motions of going to church every sunday and praising God.
I'm still in those stages where things are not as exact as they are, so my apologies.
Based on my actions as a man in my current community, I am, a christian.
edit: last night, I led a 8 people prayer group. I did a 35 minute lesson on Christianity and discussed about various topics on faith, sin, victory, along with an hour group discussion about addictions and how to combat it through the power of prayer, the holy spirit, and Jesus. =( As you can see, I am still very well conflicted in what I believe in. I've been conditioned in a way that can speak and walk exactly like a Christian, even though sometimes, I feel very differently about religion. What you see here is the real honest me, subjective or not.
Finding the right course of action will take many years, or for some, just a day. I'm still fighting that battle. :(
Post by
Magician22773
Facesmasher,
There is nothing wrong with having questions or doubts. Believe me, I have a ton of questions.
You, and you alone know if you believe or not. Believing in God, but having a list of questions a mile long is pretty normal. He gave us free will and a curious mind for a reason, so that we would not be forced to believe, but choose to believe.
Post by
MyTie
The Church's view on all other religions is that they aren't 'true', there is only one truth out there and the Church just happened to hit on it.
It's a miracle, literally.
Post by
Adamsm
The Church's view on all other religions is that they aren't 'true', there is only one truth out there and the Church just happened to hit on it.
It's a miracle, literally.
Only if you believe in what the Church teaches; otherwise, it just seems really self-centered.
Post by
Skreeran
And of course, that group of ass hats in high school who felt the need to try to beat me up for being a Wiccan. So much love and understanding.That's why my religion is Bronyism... :P
Love and Tolerate, brother.
Post by
Adamsm
And of course, that group of ass hats in high school who felt the need to try to beat me up for being a Wiccan. So much love and understanding.That's why my religion is Bronyism... :P
Love and Tolerate, brother.
I'm sticking with Wicca my friend lol; I know where I stand with them.
Post by
MyTie
Only if you believe in what the Church teaches; otherwise, it just seems really self-centered.
I think I've had this conversation with you, but my belief in a miracle doesn't make it a miracle. It either is a miracle or it isn't. I'm either wrong, or I'm right. God exists and Christ is God on Earth, or He isn't. My perception doesn't change the legitimacy of the truth.
Further, I see your point in that believing in Christ is self centered. Could you explain to me how I can believe that there is only one God, and that Christ is God on Earth, as well as believing in everyone else's beliefs too. I don't want to appear uncultured. Does that also make Muslims self centered? What about atheists? I mean, most people out there hold at least SOME belief about the nature of God. Is it that everyone who believes they know God is self centered, or everyone who believes they know there is no God self centered, or are you only calling the Christians self centered today? I guess the only not self centered people out there are the ones who believe that all beliefs are right, even when some contradict others, which I think we can all agree makes them factually incorrect, but at least they are
sensitive
, right? Oh I love where this is going.
Post by
Adamsm
Honestly: Yes, they actually all do seem a little self-centered in that regards.
I believe in what I believe in, but that doesn't mean I've given up the possibly that there is more to our universe then just what is covered by the Wicca philosophy; I really don't think any one religion has ever found that 'magic truth' to everything that makes what they preach stand above every other religion on the planet.
As for the miracle thing: You've never had that discussion with me, you are thinking of some other poster. I believe miracles can happen, but do they always have the hand of the One behind them? No one can answer that.
Post by
MyTie
I respect your beliefs and religion. I know that that is probably not something that Wicca gets a lot of: respect.
But what I was referring to was belief. Something isn't right because of belief in it. I'm about 60% sure it was you I was talking to. But, I'd say there's a good 40% chance it might have been someone else, so.
Anyway, we understand each other.
Post by
Adamsm
I respect your beliefs and religion. I know that that is probably not something that Wicca gets a lot of: respect.We get just as much respect as Christianity does.
But what I was referring to was belief. Something isn't right because of belief in it. I'm about 60% sure it was you I was talking to. But, I'd say there's a good 40% chance it might have been someone else, so.Which, is understandable. But it's like a question that was asked before on the board: Say they proved one of the religions was right about everything; would you change to that one, since it's the 'known' guarantee to end up wherever after you die. For myself, that still wouldn't matter to me; I know what I believe in, and what I would follow, because really, the crazy people aside, how many can actually take offense to a group who's prime motto is 'do what you will, but harm none'?
Anyway, we understand each other.As much as we ever do at least lol.
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