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Mitokok
My theory was Blizzard already spent a lot of time/money on making goblin/worgen models more advance/better than the older ones and they are more complex/blizz doesn't feel like adding another update to make them compatible with the monk skills.
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JASP01
It really is just lore.
Worgen: First off, they harness rage, not fuel peace and harmony. Second, again, they were closed off. Now let's say there were the Worgen that weren't closed off. Still wouldn't make sense, due to their rage and instability. Finding piece is a race problem for them, not a class.
Goblins: As said before, Pandaren can't go to Kezan; any that could had no reason to. As for other, stray Goblins... Those it is possible, but not for the ones on the Horde.
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Adamsm
You guys are missing 2 key things:
1) Have you played the Blood Elf and Draenei Starter zones? You're in a timezone at the very beginning of BC, still working to join the Horde or help get your people oriented after crash landing the Exodar. Pandaren have been traveling the world for centuries. There's no reason not to assume one or two couldn't have found there way onto Kezan or, for Worgen, built upon teachings of Gilnean monks (like the druids did).Um...actually there is: All Pandaren we see in Azeroth are from the Wandering Isle, which has been away from civilization for centuries. There is no way they could be in the isolated Gilneas countryside or the Goblin haven of Kezan.
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Adamsm
Except that you are forgetting that Pandaren originally were from Kalimdor and were allies of the Night Elves. They withdrew when they saw their allies delving into magic and becoming addicted. Some would have inevitably stayed behind and wandered around or perhaps they were already adventuring and were left behind. Yet once again: All of the new Monk trainers are from the Wandering Isle, so those are Pandarens who were not able to leave said isle. And of course, as we've learned, the Pandarens left before the Sundering happened so they wouldn't have been around to teach their allies.
Just like fuzzy said both BC starting areas are way before this time technically so why are they allowed to be monks as Pandaren apparently wouldn't have been there?Because while it's true they take place at the BC era, unlike the Goblin and Worgen starting zones, which are both isolated(you know, no way for the Pandarens to get there), it's more of a start of the update to the BC starting zones. As the most recent lore is that the Pandarens sent out their groups to make contact, and those members spread out to the starting areas, they could not have been in Gilneas or Kezan, since in those starting zones, the Goblins and the Worgens are not technically part of the Alliance or the Horde till the very end.
This is more of the suspension of belief, but just like how there are no Pandarens Death Knights because there was no way for the Pandarens to be in the Plaguelands 6 months before the start of Wrath, there is also not a way for them to be in the other locations.
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Adamsm
There was even a break away settlement founded in Kalimdor.That was in the RPG books, which are non-canon until Blizzard says otherwise.
Also, until the Cataclysm hit, Gilneas coast was sealed away and there wasn't a way in except for that secret path way only known to the Worgen and the few Night Elves. So yes, there wouldn't have been a way for a Pandaren to get into Gilneas while the Wall was up and the Harbour was inhospitable. As for the Goblins; the actual location of Kezan is known only to the Goblins; they don't share that with the other races.
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Adamsm
/sigh What you don't seem to understand is that the entire Gilneas and Kezan/Lost Isles starting zones
takes place before the the Cataclsym occurs and then just right after it
; for the time line, just like the Death Knights, there is no way that a Pandaren can be in either of those locations to train the races or become death knights.
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Adamsm
Those starting zones fall under the umbrella of the Cata update; and the Pandarens could get to Azuremyst and Silvermoon...since you know, those two areas were hidden away or behind an impenetrable reef/massive wall that cut off the country from the rest of the world.
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Adamsm
Pure and simple it's not that they were/weren't accessible. Blizzard just didn't want every race playing a monk./shrug Whatever you say; never mind that Blizzard did say in regards to the Pandaren Death Knight not being a class choice because there were no Pandaren in the Plaguelands to be part of the G3 group which all players are a part of.
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