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Post by
MyTie
Your brain, I'd imagine.
What are the limitations of this? If I believe I feel like it, could it be that I am that which I am physically not?
Post by
Patty
Your brain, I'd imagine.
What are the limitations of this? If I believe I feel like it, could it be that I am that which I am physically not?
Well, I should probably have mentioned the likelihood a mutation in the DNA, but the physical ramifications of that is most likely to be expressed in the brain. And yes, if your brain is physically and electrochemically wired oppositely to your body's sex, then that would probably be possible.
Post by
Laihendi
How does someone who was born with the body of a boy know that he has the mind of a girl (or vice versa)?
Post by
MyTie
Well, I should probably have mentioned the likelihood a mutation in the DNA, but that's most likely to be expressed in the brain. And yes, if your brain is physically and electrochemically wired oppositely to your body's sex, then that would probably be possible.
And the measure of this is feelings? What about if it comes after birth, from environment? Are people who feel they are made transgender by their environment not legitimately transgender?
Post by
Patty
How does someone who was born with the body of a boy know that he has the mind of a girl (or vice versa)?
By identity. Just like how homosexuals fundamentally know, most of the time, that they are unattracted to the opposite sex.Well, I should probably have mentioned the likelihood a mutation in the DNA, but that's most likely to be expressed in the brain. And yes, if your brain is physically and electrochemically wired oppositely to your body's sex, then that would probably be possible.
And the measure of this is feelings? What about if it comes after birth, from environment? Are people who feel they are made transgender by their environment not legitimately transgender?
It's likely that nature and nurture both play roles, but the genetic role would probably outweigh any environmental ramifications. My dad used to smack me around when I acted camp as an extremely young kid (in the 2-4 range, yes my sexuality was expressing itself at that age), that didn't turn me into a manly, straight guy.
Post by
Laihendi
If gender is defined by the brain and not the body, why do people care about what kind of body they have? How is it relevant?
PS Thank you for answering all of these questions.
Post by
MyTie
So, you respect that someone can choose to be that which they are physically not based on the way that they feel, even if there is no biological reasoning for it? Is this limited to gender? Can someone also be trans species? If not, why not?
Post by
Patty
If gender is defined by the brain and not the body, why do people care about what kind of body they have? How is it relevant?
Because your body doesn't match, and is a constant reminder that you are in the
wrong
body.
So, you respect that someone can choose to be that which they are physically not based on the way that they feel, even if there is no biological reasoning for it? Is this limited to gender? Can someone also be trans species? If not, why not?
No, because like I said the genetics would likely outweigh any environmental influences. If you dye your hair blonde for long enough, it doesn't miraculously turn naturally blonde, because the environment is not changing your chemical composition. The difference between genders and species in terms of DNA and brain functions/structure would make trans speciesism almost impossible, I would imagine.
Post by
Laihendi
Because your body doesn't match, and is a constant reminder that you are in the wrong body.
But how does the body not match? What makes a female body right for a female, and a male body right for a male?
Post by
Adamsm
Because your body doesn't match, and is a constant reminder that you are in the wrong body.
But how does the body not match? What makes a female body right for a female, and a male body right for a male?
The way it feels to them, as in they don't feel comfortable in the body no matter what; honestly, Mila is the best person to ask these questions too, since she is undergoing it.
Post by
Patty
Because your body doesn't match, and is a constant reminder that you are in the wrong body.
But how does the body not match? What makes a female body right for a female, and a male body right for a male?
What I said a few posts ago. Genetics and the way the brain is wired up.
Post by
Laihendi
Laihendi is not satisfied with Patty's last answer so he will wait for Mila.
Post by
Milayu
Laihendi, MyTie, I assume that at least once in your lives you've been mistaken on the phone or from behind as a woman and someone used the wrong pronoun to refer to you. For someone in my situation, that happens every single day from almost every single person I know. They expect me to have sterotypical male interests, reactions, thoughts, feelings and mannerisms. My parents, despite that they've been the main topics I bring with them, still give me looks when I bring up how other people are dressed, why I like or don't like it, cooking, etc. People still comment on how strangely I walk, talk, hold myself, so, so many minor things that add up to be a problem so tremendous I've been on the verge of suicide for years. I find the way the two of you handle the issue and treat it with so little respect contemptible and even disgusting.
Post by
Laihendi
Laihendi is simply asking questions so that he may learn about something that he does not understand (which is presumably the point of this thread).
So then, are some transgender people uncomfortable with the bodies they are born with because they frequently do not satisfy the expectations that others have for them based on their physical appearance? If so, why do they want to satisfy the expectations of those people?
Post by
Patty
Laihendi is simply asking questions so that he may learn about something that he does not understand.
So then, are some transgender people uncomfortable with the bodies they are born with because they frequently do not satisfy the expectations that others have for them based on their physical appearance? If so, why do they want to satisfy the expectations of those people?
It's probably more to do with knocking down your self-esteem every time you're treated like something that you in your mind know you, fundamentally, are
not
.
Post by
Milayu
Why
don't
you
tell
me?
Post by
Laihendi
Those posts are seriously being taken out of context.
Post by
Milayu
Then explain how you weren't making light of transpeople. I've got popcorn.
Post by
Laihendi
Are you going to answer any of Laihendi's questions or not? He came here to learn about transgender issues, and each of his questions so far have been serious. If you just want to argue and be offended, please say so and Laihendi will stop bothering with this thread.
Post by
Milayu
Then explain how you weren't making light of transpeople. I've got popcorn.
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