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Post by
Adamsm
I would argue that we don't want Hollywood funding films we want to be made because they won't be films we want to watch once they are. Sure it takes a bit more effort to find awesome small budget films but isn't that part of what makes it worth it?That...I'm not completely sure; I love movies that have the big budgets as much as I enjoy the smaller budget movies; things like the Potter franchise had the better effects; imagine if they had tried to make Deathly Hallows with the same budget that they had for Philosopher's Stone(the second part of course heh). But I agree that some of the small budget films are worth hunt...but really, there are just as many stinkers among them as well.
Post by
MyTie
Sure it takes a bit more effort to find awesome small budget films but isn't that part of what makes it worth it?
I'm aggervated. I'm actually pretty upset. Not at you. I'm upset that gems get buried while garbage gets touted. It's actually the problem with politics.
I'm tempted to make an "Unknown Great Films" thread. But I don't have the energy. Anyone also interested in a thread like that?
Edit: The reason that you saying I'm "a guy in a thread" is ad hominem and me saying "You're so silly" is not ad hominem is because your point about me being "just" a guy in a thread, while true, is the basis for your argument. My argument against the film industry isn't based on the fact that asakawa is silly. That is more of a side note. Since it isn't part of my argument, it isn't an ad hominem argument. Get it?
Post by
gamerunknown
Oh, Manic was pretty good. My sister had a major crush on Joseph Gordon Levitt so she got me to watch it.
On the other hand, I watched gay ^&*!@#s from outer space and a Troma film on the same day and they were both... not to my liking. Independent films tend to have niche audience.
Post by
Jubilee
I like good films. I don't care who made them, who acted in them, or how much it cost.
Post by
MyTie
I like good films. I don't care who made them, who acted in them, or how much it cost.
This is normally true for me, but I admittedly dislike some actors and actresses due to their political positions so much that I can't see through them to the movie. For instance, Alec Baldwin, Whoopi Goldburg, Olivia Wilde, Chris Rock, Jane Fonda, etc.... pretty much any time I see their name on something I don't even bother watching it. It's sad, because sometimes they are in pretty decent movies.
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Adamsm
I like good films. I don't care who made them, who acted in them, or how much it cost.
I'm sorta of like that, except for a very select few actors: Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt and the like heh. But yeah, if the movie is good enough to me, I can ignore a hated actor even if he's in a starring role: Green Lantern and Ryan Reynolds, Tom Cruise and Interview with a Vampire, Brad Pitt and Se7en, and idiot one and idiot two(Ben Affleck and Matt Damon) in Dogma.
Post by
MyTie
Tom Cruise
I think we've finally found something we agree on.
Post by
Monday
You don't like Matt Damon, Adams? D=
Post by
Adamsm
You don't like Matt Damon, Adams? D=
Nope; dislike him a lot. But like I said, in Dogma, I can 'almost' ignore it's his big giant head playing the Executioner.
Tom Cruise
I think we've finally found something we agree on.
Heh, I know, strange ain't it?
Post by
Monday
I'm... depressed now. Matt Damon is one of my favorite actors.
Post by
MyTie
Heh, I know, strange ain't it?
Yeah. I know we both don't like him, and I kind of don't want to spoil things, but let's venture down a bit further.
Why don't you like him?
I don't like him because he strikes me as narcissistic. All of his movies are movies about how he is so totally awesome, and being so clever, and cool, and athletic, and all the things that Tom Cruise is decidedly NOT. The only movie he ever made that I enjoyed was Mission Impossible. That was good because of the great plot, which had nothing to do with Tom Cruise. He then hijacked it and made like 5 movie Mission Impossibles that were just long self-tributes. Pissed me off.I'm... depressed now. Matt Damon is one of my favorite actors.
He was at his best in Team America: World Police.
Post by
Adamsm
Pretty much the same, except you know, Interview with the Vampire being the only thing I can stand him in. But yeah, between his insanity and weird ideas, just not someone I want to watch for 2 hours on a giant screen.
I'm... depressed now. Matt Damon is one of my favorite actors.
He was at his best in Team America: World Police.
/snicker Well, he wasn't horrible in Dogma.
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MyTie
I like Matt Damon. He is one of the few actors whos skill as an actor overshadows his idiotic political positions. Bourne fims, Oceans, True Grit, Departed, Private Ryan, etc etc etc
Post by
HoleofArt
I'm aggervated. I'm actually pretty upset. Not at you. I'm upset that gems get buried while garbage gets touted.
I've really never seen this be the case. I mean, yeah, a lot of terrible movies get a lot of hype and marketing (Avatar), but whenever a great movie comes out literally
everyone
talks about it. The Dark Knight, for example, or Inception. Both of those did incredibly well and I've yet to see any gems equal to or better than those moves in the last decade be buried by movies like Jack and Jill.
I would be interested to see your thread of unknown great movies though. I love a good movie.
Side note: has anyone else noticed that commercials for movies last longer after their opening weekend depending on how well they did critically and commercially? Maybe it isn't a trend, but movies like Jack and Jill (and John Carter for that matter) drop off almost instantly while better films are advertised for at least another week or two.
Not talking about dvd or blueray advertisements
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Post by
KingdomKnight
That's twice in two years. Maybe Disney will think before spending tons of money on terrible movies. They should also work on their advertising. The advertising for this movie was pretty bad.
Post by
asakawa
I like Matt Damon. I don't think he would be a reason I would give to actively want to see a film but I think he's pretty good.
Tom Cruise actually puts me off films, even if they appear to be excellent and worth watching in every other way. I'd be lying if I said it didn't have something to do with Scientology but it's not just that he wrapped up in a cult like that, it's that I've seen him in publicity stuff for Scientology and then I might see him laugh in the same way in a film (for example) and it just pulls me right out of the film. Juliette Lewis is also a Scientologist but she hasn't done so much to associate herself with it so it doesn't spring to my mind when I see her in a film (or listen to her albums).
The Dark Knight, for example, or Inception
Is it opposites day?
low budget but thought provoking and plot intriguing movies
I think The Artist probably fits the bill for this. Occasionally small budget films do get championed and they can often make for a spike in interest in other similar films for a while. There's actually a pretty decent (if long and winding) way for very good small budget films to get wider interest with the various independent film festivals around the world. I don't think we necessarily need the Oscars people to take more notice of Sundance (for example) but rather, we the viewing public can just cut out the middle man and follow those festivals ourselves.
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