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Adamsm
That would get people back.....for a day, then those servers would be empty as everyone jumps ship to get away from the endless bugs and crappy end game raid content they did for millions of times back in the day.
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821119
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Post by
Rankkor
Just once I wish blizz would gave in and give them their god-damned vanilla realm, just to prove a point:
That after a couple of months it would be a ghost-town, due to:
A: people being bored of doing the same content with no future updates ever ariving again.
B: Being frustrated with specs that simply DO NOT WORK (Like boomkins, or retadins, or HEAVENS FORBID an afli lock)
C: Being frustrated by ANNOYING and time-consuming content that serves as nothing but padding and filler for raids that are simple tank&spank gear-checks. (Such as vael, I'd LOVE to see those who clamor for a vanilla raid to do vael 5 times and then say to my face they had fun)
D: being frustrated by annoying quests with horrid drop-rates, long walkings that lead to nowhere, bugs, and worst.
Post by
Monday
Since the demand isn't really all that high...
Post by
Eccentrica
They aren't complaining. They are stating facts. Furthermore, I suggest you remove your rose coloured glasses and have a real good think about this, and whether you would actually play for more than an hour under the old conditions. The mere thought of walking till 40 gives me the heebie jeebies.
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Post by
apsk
No need to do any raids, people would leave at level 20 when they find out they have to grind 20 more levels for their first ground mount, while also having to pay ridiculous amounts of money if they want an epic one.
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877949
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Post by
Adamsm
D: I never experienced a quest that could never be completed, and if you 'walked' to a place where you weren't suppose to be, its usually an exploit.
Long drop rates? Then pick up other quests in the area!Even with the other quests, you could still be in one location grinding out a specific drop for hours upon hours. And yes, there were quests that had one part and you got nothing for it; turning in the Essence of Eranikus for instance, which sent you from the Swamp of Sorrows to Winterspring...and back then, that meant running from the Green Dragon's cave to Nethergarde keep, then flying to Menethil Harbor, take the boat to Auberdine, and fly to Everlook then run north to the turn in...and get absolutely nothing but an unresolved quest.
G: Skillbooks only existed in AQ20 where you should be raiding with a guild, only rogues get one in UBRS and people weren't so touchy back thenThere were skill books added in the BC era as well, turned into completely random dungeon drops....and of course, the utter rng nonsense of the Dire Maul books where if you were incredibly lucky you'd find your book.
Oh and H: World Bosses that unless you were part of the Top Guild, you never saw die and never got the needed gear from to actually head to the raids.
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877949
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Post by
Adamsm
And therefore this game is called
World
of Warcraft.
Also the line in bold/underlined, this is why the entire 1-60 revamp is teaching new players the wrong thing (You get tremendous reward no matter what you did)
Unresolved quests? Look at 1-60 now and see for yourself :) (Dev/storyboard writers' fault for not finishing)Not as bad as Vanilla was; now a days, at least 90% of the quests have some resolution, even if it takes a few zones to do so. Back then? If you were lucky, maybe you'd figure out the big mystery of the zone, if you could actually find quests in the area.
If you are talking about recipe books yes, skill books I don't recall any dropping ever unless its in Sunwell PlateauThere were ability books that dropped, as a way to cut down on needed gold for learning a skill.
Dire Maul books are not required for raiding(unless you are going for Quel'Serra), its a nice trinket item though. RNG was always in game and they redid it for Archaeology by putting RNG within RNG...I agree, RNG has always sucked in the game.
My guild never needed to do World Bosses to raid up till first half of AQ40. We just did the best we could and downed raid bosses
Merely a note of what happened back in the day in regards to the World Bosses, which we'll probably see a resurgence of if they actually add them in MoP.
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Magician22773
Its funny, one of the fanboy's favorite reasons for Pandas is that "people have been asking for them for years"...and Blizz gives them an entire expansion. But people have been asking for nostalgia servers for years too, but they get flamed to death at the very mention of it.
Everyone also seems to point out that you would be dealing with crashing servers and bugged quests. I think by now those issues could be fixed on a nostalgia server. In fact, most of them were fixed in Vanilla itself.
Personally, I don't see one good reason why Blizz couldn't do it. The game files still exist, so very little time would be needed to "develop" it. I'm sure blizzard has a few spare servers laying around. On the slight chance they don't, combine a few of the dead servers (another thing that people have been asking for). And since the entire concept is to NOT have new content, there is no waste of manpower on that either.
There are a lot of people that actually liked the old content. Just because you didn't, doesn't mean they didn't. There are a lot of people playing on <things we shall not discuss> that might actually subscribe to have an actual supported server to play on. And Blizz would probably make some more cash when (if) players decided they wanted to transfer off a classic server to a normal realm.
If Blizz is actually worried about getting their money for the current expansions, require the most current xpac to play on a classic server. Hell, I would gladly buy MoP if I could play on a BC server and never have to see a Panda.
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Adamsm
There are a lot of people that actually liked the old content. Just because you didn't, doesn't mean they didn't. There are a lot of people playing on <things we shall not discuss> that might actually subscribe to have an actual supported server to play on. And Blizz would probably make some more cash when (if) players decided they wanted to transfer off a classic server to a normal realm.
Which is the largest reason why Blizzard would never do it, as it would make it even easier for them to run their 'businesses'.
Post by
Sas148
I somehow doubt the cost of this warrants the possible reward. I haven't heard very many people over the years desire such a thing. Of course I don't know the raw numbers involved or if there has ever really been a survey of sorts for it. I however can't say I'm interested.
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Post by
Magician22773
Its not the easiest thing to search for, because there is not set name for them, but if you search "Classic server", "Vanilla Server", "BC Server", "Nostalgia Server",,,ect, you will see there are posts going back to 2008 about this topic.
Sure, they usually get beat to death by the flamers, but there always is a following in every post that would love to see a classic realm opened up.
An average realm is only 10-15k people. I can almost guarantee you that at least that many players would enjoy having a way to see original content in its original form.
A big part of what makes WoW what it is, is its history. And with all the changes, that history is only really known to a small portion of the current playerbase. Hell, we finished up DS early this week, and decided to run Heroic BWD just for fun, and out of our core 25 man group, we did not have 10 players that even had been in BWD...ever. And thats current expansion content.
I don't really think its lack of profitability why Blizz won't do this. At the least, they have nothing to lose, and at best, they could draw back a number of the lost veteran players. As long as they require the most current xpac to play them, then they dont risk the loss of the box sales either.
Post by
spiketcat
Seems a totally pointless thread, as I believe Blizzard have already categorically stated there will be no Nostalgia realms, and who can blame them...say for example one does appear and attracts..say 10k players, of those 10k players, lets assume a drop off of 20% after they realise WoW vanilla wasnt all it was they remembered, it just isnt financially viable for Blizzard to do it...and tbh they take long enough to produce new content for the current version, without having to divert resources to one single realm, which may contain very little players..
And tbh i miss Vanilla WoW because it was new and exciting and the playerbase were friendlier...Would i want to play it now...not a chance, having to walk until level 40.....lol i hate it now to level 20, and remember this is an accelerated xp levelling system we have.
Post by
yukonjack
I would like to see a survey performed by blizz given only to accounts that have existed since classic wow to see the actual hard numbers of how many people supposedly would want to play on a vanilla server.
Until then its all just speculation. For myself I prefer to keep playing a game that is moving forward not backwards and then stagnating.
Post by
Sas148
I would like to see a survey performed by blizz given only to accounts that have existed since classic wow to see the actual hard numbers of how many people supposedly would want to play on a vanilla server.
Until then its all just speculation. For myself I prefer to keep playing a game that is moving forward not backwards and then stagnating.
I wouldn't be opposed to an in-game survey... (to attract the highest possible response). I just doubt it would be that popular, or even if it was, that the popularity of it would last.
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