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World War 3, the way of downfall?
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Post by
Adamsm
How about you provide a source for a comment that was made on a Youtube video first?
Edit: In other words, I'm still not gonna start screaming the sky is falling just quite yet.
Post by
MyTie
How about you provide a source for a comment that was made on a Youtube video first?
Edit: In other words, I'm still not gonna start screaming the sky is falling just quite yet.
Youtube? What?
Here is some source material for you.
Happy reading.
Post by
Adamsm
BREAKING NEWS: Published: 03 February, 2012, 15:04: ‘Israel to strike Iran in April, May or June’ – US Defense Sec
US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said that Israel could attack Iran in the next few months. This follows Israeli reports that Iran has the capability to develop four nuclear bombs and reach the US with a missile strike.
Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said that continuing to threaten Iran will only harm the United States.
Source is from a comment posted on a WW3 simulation video.
That's where it came from(note the bold).
And that information mentions nuclear power, but not WMD's; if that was the requirement, then the USA, Canada and Russia would all fall under it after all.
Edit: But as I said on the previous page, if Iran does decide the nuke option, it's not going to aim for the USA, it's going to hit the country attacking it....and when it does that, it would end up sparking off a nuke party time as multiple countries fire on Iran, then the allies of Iran start firing on the people who attacked them and so on and so forth till you have a scorched earth.
Edit 2: But then again, Boronidze said it better then me on the last page as well:
Soviets did it, too. The could have nuked U.S anytime, the retaliation was deterring factor. Soviets thought that U.S will launch all the missiles the have and the world as we know will end. Besides, one course I had in last semester was tangent to Cold War and professor claimed that back in the day, U.S had capability to take down majority of missiles that was against Soviet missiles. I doubt that Iran posses more missiles than U.S can handle with their defense systems.So I'm done now alright?
Edit 3: I had something there that shouldn't have been, I apologize to MyTie if he saw it.
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557473
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Post by
Monday
because if Iran does that, I am sure no one will want to back them up.
This is what I think will happen. I highly doubt many countries would want to compete against the US, GB, France and the RF.
Post by
MyTie
That's terrific. I'm glad you all have so much faith in the logic, evenheadedness, and stability of the Iranian government. I hope there is not a revolution that places a violent extremist in power, or a new Supreme Leader that is insane... or a land war that pushes nations to nuclear war.... or any other dozens of scenerios that CAN go wrong. You all are being short sighted. You must see that.
Post by
Adamsm
That's terrific. I'm glad you all have so much faith in the logic, evenheadedness, and stability of the Iranian government. I hope there is not a revolution that places a violent extremist in power, or a new Supreme Leader that is insane... or a land war that pushes nations to nuclear war.... or any other dozens of scenerios that CAN go wrong. You all are being short sighted. You must see that.
And you can say that for any 'extremist' country or group out there, and we all know that some governments will create a bogeyman out of nothing to incite a new panic; happened before after all.
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Post by
gamerunknown
Oh yeah, there was a poll of Egyptians which found that 90% thought America was a threat to the region and about 10% thought Iran was, lol. The majority thought it would be good if Iran had nuclear weapons (like Israel does). To be fair, there have been insinuations about the invasion of Iran since the Iraq invasion and the US is the only country to have used nuclear weaponry, so I'm sure they want to create a nuclear deterrent.
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557473
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Post by
gamerunknown
Nevermind I'll just let
Chomsky
say it.
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557473
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Post by
MyTie
Nevermind I'll just let
Chomsky
say it.
/sigh
I might as well whip out some Glen Beck... but then I know that citing completely insane people who happen to hold some of the same ideals as me doesn't help my argument.I listed insane cases here they are if you missed it:
1) Shoot U.S. Most, if not all missiles will be taken down, then U.S retaliates, wiping Iran of the face of Earth. Not smart plan for Iran. Not sure if Adamsm's idea of retaliation for Iran will work out, because if Iran does that, I am sure no one will want to back them up.
2) Shoot Israel. Most likely it is going to be the same as scenario above, except it is going to piss off every other nations in the region, screwing Iran even worse.
Oh, I saw it.
1) Most missiles? That's so friggin comforting. To know that only a few nukes would hit the US... geez... And you are using this as an argument for how Iran isn't a nuclear threat?
2) You should read about how WW1 started, but imagine trench warfare being replaced with nuclear warfare.
You have a cool mix of shuggery and flippant disregard. Iran getting nukes isn't a good scenerio, for anybody. I don't care how much hate America propaganda has been crammed down the throats of Egyptian muslims, or what some loony anarchist says.... Can't you guys come up with better than:
1) Only some parts of the world would get nuked, if any.
2) They probably want to protect themselves with nukes.
3) The US nuked Japan in the 1040s
4) An anarchist says that Iran getting nukes is a good thing
Seriously, guys. Iran. Nukes. Iran. Nukes. Why are we having this discussion as if it is a not already decidedly bad thing?
Post by
Adamsm
Seriously, guys. Iran. Nukes. Iran. Nukes. Why are we having this discussion as if it is a not already decidedly bad thing?
Change it to Soviet Union and you have the Cold War again...which again, was more of a threat, because the Motherland actually had the nuclear fire power to back up it's threat. At most, Iran has 4 nukes, which any of the countries with real anti-defense weapons can shoot out of the sky.
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557473
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Post by
MyTie
Seriously, guys. Iran. Nukes. Iran. Nukes. Why are we having this discussion as if it is a not already decidedly bad thing?
Change it to Soviet Union and you have the Cold War again...which again, was more of a threat, because the Motherland actually had the nuclear fire power to back up it's threat. At most, Iran has 4 nukes, which any of the countries with real anti-defense weapons can shoot out of the sky.
As long as they are in the sky. As long as the anti defense weapons work. Then yes, we can go about eating french fries and watching the super bowl. Our kids can get on the bus, and we can celebrate the next birthday, and etc etc etc. If that doesn't work, then, hey, maybe my kids will die. That's a pretty important 'if' to me. I'd rather that Iran didn't have the opportunity to do, or create the chain of events that leads to that if. And so, I'm very very strongly massively positively absolutely against Iran getting nukes, as you should be.
Post by
Adamsm
I'm against all countries having nukes MyTie, not just Iran.
Edit: But like I said up higher, Buzz Words just don't stir me up like they used to.
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557473
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127599
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Post by
MyTie
What gives you authority to consider Iran insane? Maybe, from their perspective U.S is insane for invading random countries without any real reason, and they need missiles to protect yourself from your insanity. Unless, you are awesome mind-reader, don't call someone insane. If Iran would use its weapons (assuming their existence), only because they would be under enough pressure from U.S and the world, and just break down. Leave them alone, and I think it will turn out all fine.
Denial of the Holocaust.
Stated desire to obliterate other countries.
Brutal dictatorship over their own citizens
Religious law over human rights
Need I go on? The insanity of the Iranian regime is not a subjective analysis, but a historical fact.
Just... leave them alone and it'll all work out? What have you been smoking?
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