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Dragalthor
And you know, the Christians have been on this kick for two millennia. A partial list of events that have been identified as heralds of the End Time:
That is a very large brush you are tarring all Christians with there Chairman. Whilst I have no doubt that a certain small subset of the Christian faith have been predicting the end of days for millennia now this cannot be taken as it being the whole Christian faith that does so.
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OverZealous
Honestly, the OP seems overly dramatic for my taste, and it has certain factual and logical errors. Or, to be frank - all of this seems like a decently veiled Ron Paul campaign message.
Isn't obvious that these days media are trying to alter things out? American channels like BBC and Fox New are always against Ron Paul, a man who wants the good for the American people and his speechs speak of truth that they have been hiding for us. Media are always against him, trying to ignore him or give false information about his opionions or his speechs
First of all, BBC stands for "
British Broadcasting Corporation
", implying that, you know, it isn't American. Secondly, the whole "The media is always against Ron Paul" seems... well, exaggerated. And if someone says something that the media thinks doesn't make sense, why should they agree with that person because they usually disagree?
Lastly, "his speechs speak of truth that they have been hiding for us" assumes that he is telling the truth himself. That he tells you what you may want to hear does not make him more right.
And the whole "Media is trying to alter things out" is kind of pointless. Few news sources are completely unbiased, and the opinions of the reporters will always sneak into the news. I do not think it is a conspiracy to keep us all in the dark, though it might be - but I prefer to watch things for myself.
USA wants to conquer Iran by declaring war on them to steal their precious "oil"
You mean like what happened in Saudi Arabia and Iraq? Honestly, this whole "oil thing" is getting pretty old. The U.S wants, needs, oil - of course. But the fact that they need oil does not immediately mean that they are intent on declaring war with any arab country with sufficient amounts of oil. If that was they case, shouldn't they have attacked someone else long ago?
USA have been preparing for years for this war, they didn't care if the 1/3 of their citizens were starving, all they cared is to make every one a slave of them and be the strongest ones.
Do you have some sources to back up your claims? I mean, you have three videos that comment on events that can be interpreted in any number of ways, but where did you get "1/3 of the population is starving" from, for example? The U.S is, rather definitely, the world's most powerful nation, sure - but I've not seen much evidence of them wanting to make everyone a slave in a while. Back that up, please.
Post by
MyTie
And you know, the Christians have been on this kick for two millennia. A partial list of events that have been identified as heralds of the End Time:
That is a very large brush you are tarring all Christians with there Chairman. Whilst I have no doubt that a certain small subset of the Christian faith have been predicting the end of days for millennia now this cannot be taken as it being the whole Christian faith that does so.
I'm giving Kaga the benefit of the doubt. I don't recognize him/her, so I don't think he/she has been around the debates all that much. We don't tolerate stereotyping very well. In fact, if something that isn't stereotyping is called stereotyping, it isn't taken very well.
This is the second post I've read that Kaga wrote, and the second time he has rubbed me the wrong way. The first was about SOPA, which both him and I agreed was bad, but his arguments were poorly constructed, and full of flammable material. Sometimes people like this come in, wearing the loudest pair of boots they can find, trouncing around the debate like an elephant on acid. They don't really know the way things work, so they either fizzle out within a week, or they stick around forever without any real purpose but to flame stuff. Either way, it is best to just dismiss it.
Kaga, if you read this, try to level your head, cool off, and post something reasonably factual, or at least logical constructed, that contributes to the topic while stepping on as few toes as possible. Not saying you shouldn't step on toes. By all means, don't be scared of offending people. But at the same time, if your offense is not serving a greater purpose to your argument, then why bother?
Post by
Adamsm
Honestly, the OP seems overly dramatic for my taste, and it has certain factual and logical errors. Or, to be frank - all of this seems like a decently veiled Ron Paul campaign message.Um, OZ, the OP is Secarius, in all honesty, this is probably just a massive troll.
Post by
OverZealous
Honestly, the OP seems overly dramatic for my taste, and it has certain factual and logical errors. Or, to be frank - all of this seems like a decently veiled Ron Paul campaign message.Um, OZ, the OP is Secarius, in all honesty, this is probably just a massive troll.
That seems rather likely. I needed to spit out some arguments for the sake of arguing, though, and I prefer not to assume anything is a trolling attempt based on the username of the person in question
^^
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Adamsm
As OZ said:
Honestly, the OP seems overly dramatic for my taste, and it has certain factual and logical errors. Or, to be frank - all of this seems like a decently veiled Ron Paul campaign message.
Isn't obvious that these days media are trying to alter things out? American channels like BBC and Fox New are always against Ron Paul, a man who wants the good for the American people and his speechs speak of truth that they have been hiding for us. Media are always against him, trying to ignore him or give false information about his opionions or his speechs
First of all, BBC stands for "
British Broadcasting Corporation
", implying that, you know, it isn't American. Secondly, the whole "The media is always against Ron Paul" seems... well, exaggerated. And if someone says something that the media thinks doesn't make sense, why should they agree with that person because they usually disagree?
Lastly, "his speechs speak of truth that they have been hiding for us" assumes that he is telling the truth himself. That he tells you what you may want to hear does not make him more right.
And the whole "Media is trying to alter things out" is kind of pointless. Few news sources are completely unbiased, and the opinions of the reporters will always sneak into the news. I do not think it is a conspiracy to keep us all in the dark, though it might be - but I prefer to watch things for myself.
USA wants to conquer Iran by declaring war on them to steal their precious "oil"
You mean like what happened in Saudi Arabia and Iraq? Honestly, this whole "oil thing" is getting pretty old. The U.S wants, needs, oil - of course. But the fact that they need oil does not immediately mean that they are intent on declaring war with any arab country with sufficient amounts of oil. If that was they case, shouldn't they have attacked someone else long ago?
USA have been preparing for years for this war, they didn't care if the 1/3 of their citizens were starving, all they cared is to make every one a slave of them and be the strongest ones.
Do you have some sources to back up your claims? I mean, you have three videos that comment on events that can be interpreted in any number of ways, but where did you get "1/3 of the population is starving" from, for example? The U.S is, rather definitely, the world's most powerful nation, sure - but I've not seen much evidence of them wanting to make everyone a slave in a while. Back that up, please.
I'd suggest responding to him instead, if you can Sec.
Post by
gamerunknown
Things have improved for Russians in the past decade. After the transition to capitalism, the healthcare system in the soviet republic was essentially dismantled and the average lifespan there dropped by about 8 years for males. The lifespan since Putin for males has picked up to to almost pre-capitalist levels (I'm not a supporter of either the USSR or Putin, but I think one can establish a pretty neat correlation between quality of public healthcare and life expectancy).
I'd like to see the studies which show the US could be "
oil independent
". Unless one counts Canada, Mexico and Venezuela as US satellite states?
Finally, I think Ron Paul would be a fantastic candidate for the rest of the world (apart from Israel, Saudi Arabia and a few vanguard Latin American countries that rely on US military aid), but he'd be horrendous for his citizens. The US is already tied with Cuba in terms of life expectancy, a country with 1/14th the expenditure on healthcare. The UK is something like 16 places ahead with half the expenditure. Ron Paul wants to reduce the number of people entitled to free healthcare: the only reasonable prognosis is that more people would die as a result.
Edit: As to whether the oil thing is old: the US is allied with Saudi Arabia, a country with no democracy and consistent human rights abuses (execution for "witchcraft", apostasy and adultery). The majority of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia: but the US imports Saudi oil and has military bases there, so these minor issues are ignored. They US has established trade with Libya but couldn't secure Iraqi oil due to widespread peaceful protests in Iraq.
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301983
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Post by
OverZealous
By all the logic, if all people on USA are leaving happily and being both physical and economically in good rate then why USA keeps wanting more and more? Aren't they already a developed nation? Would be nice if you were born in a poor family, on a low-developed country and all of sudden someone comes and steals everything from you with out giving him the order to?
USA Goverment always focused on rich people, they wanted to make rich stronger and poor even weakerst, Russia managed to do the opposite and that's why Russia thanks to Putin has become much stronger that it ever was
In case you missed it, I made a post farther up where I addressed a few of your points in the OP. If you have the time, I'd appreciate you giving a reply
=)
Post by
Firallon
Caution: the following may piss some people off. Watch the
video
, if at any point you find yourself getting upset. It's kittens being adorable.
I for one would welcome a war with China, for several reasons. Firstly, war has had a historic ability to boost the US economy, ala WWII getting us out the Great Depression. It creates jobs, builds infrastructure, funds research.
Second, and here's the flammable bit, remember the link, is a war with a high population country, such as China, would reduce the global environmental impact by reducing overpopulation.
Also, since China owns most of the United States debt, it would reduce the number of products America imports, potentially zero our debt, and Wal-Mart wouldn't be shoving off foreign made crap. Seriously, anything that is US made is of higher quality then its Chinese counterpart, but that is a different topic for a different time.
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301983
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ElhonnaDS
EDIT: You know what, it wasn't worth responding to. I'll leave it alone.
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91278
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Post by
Azazel
I'll third that.
I love conspiracy theories though.
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557473
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