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Lore wise which expansion do you like most?
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Post by
keyur
Oh got it...from wowwiki
"Regardless, if Deathwing's actions create an opening into the Abyssal Maw, nefarious and honorable factions alike will seek out the fabled weapon carried by Neptulon. Whoever secures the
artifact
will have control over the world's seas, a power that perhaps no one, not even members of the Horde or the Alliance, should possess."
Anyone know which weapon/artifact they are talking about?
Post by
Calayna
If I had to pick I'd say Wrath was the best one lorewise for me. I really like the lore involving Belfs and the Sunwell in BC but I enjoyed more of all of Wrath's lore it had to offer. It felt more cohesive and i felt more immersed in it than questing and raiding in BC content.
I'll own up to starting WoW when Argent Tournament was released and didnt see endgame content till sometime after the ICC wings were being released so that might have some influence in my opinion.
Post by
Arraya
Lore wise i'd say Cataclysm... all those Dragon Aspect themes, the shattering!, the Well of Eternity dungeon that's coming on Patch 4.3 that content that the expansion has...all that makes me feel happy.
Post by
Levarus
Wrath of the Lich King. Lich King coolest villain ever made.
Post by
Monday
Wrath, imo.
Post by
Ritmas
What kind of lore did Wrath had?
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422399
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Post by
Orranis
I'd say Cataclysm except for Uldum. That entire thing was pretty arbitrary and random, it didn't flow at all. Then Wrath, then Vanilla, then BC, then Mists.
Post by
keyur
Why so many people dont like Uldum? There is good quest line(with good cut scenes) and new creatures - it may possible to write new lore from there. One of the old god servant Al'akir is there. Its not possible to get all answer(about Alakir and all) in single expansion.
Post by
Adamsm
Because it was boring as #$%^ when they did the stupid Harrison Jones questline.
Post by
Atik
Because it was boring as #$%^ when they did the stupid Harrison Jones questline.
And the fact that every.single.quest. either had a vehical or a cutscene somewhere.
And the actually interesting story got cut horribly short.
Post by
keyur
ok...Uldum quests have personal choices and opinions. When cata launched I finished whole uldum quest line with interest and never got bored. Many people say Indiana Jones etc. - but still it good quests leading to HoO dungeon. I leveled other 6 toons after main - I always like to do Uldum quests most but sadly I had to go T highland due to huge xp.
Many people dont like Uldum because its feels different than other cata areas in quest line. Same happened to wrath and people also liked Uldar patch. Its like what the hack Uldar had to do with ICC?
Post by
Adamsm
Same happened to wrath and people also liked Uldar patch. Its like what the hack Uldar had to do with ICC?Ulduar should have been the real finale to the expansion, rather then ICC. And the connection is pretty simple: All of the Scourge armour was built with Saronite, which is the crystallized blood of Yogg Saron, the possible Old God of Death.
Post by
Atik
Same happened to wrath and people also liked Uldar patch. Its like what the hack Uldar had to do with ICC?Ulduar should have been the real finale to the expansion, rather then ICC. And the connection is pretty simple: All of the Scourge armour was built with Saronite, which is the crystallized blood of Yogg Saron, the possible Old God of Death.
And didn't they say that Yogg-Saron was also behind a lot of what happened in the overall plot, but it was never really shown in game?
The the ghost of Arthas' father saying 'no king rules forever'?
Post by
Adamsm
No, they never said that, only that the Scourge mocks the so-called Death God.
Post by
Atik
No, they never said that, only that the Scourge mocks the so-called Death God.
I thought one of the Q&As had a question about Yoggy and they were like "We had origonally planned on a whole storyline to show how Yogg-Saron played a very large part in most of Wrath, but it never made it into the game."
I'll try to find it.
Post by
PocketPaladin
I think BC was my favourite expansion, lore-wise. I'm Horde, so the retcon with the Draenei didn't directly bother me a whole bunch. I loved getting to see the orcs' home world. The zones themselves had great patches of good lore (Nagrand, parts of Hellfire, Terokkar, etc), and Isle of Quel'thalas and Sunwell were really really well done. Illidan could have been much better, as others noted, and it could have been a bit more cohesive of a plot altogether, but I really and truly enjoyed the experience. I think as an Orc player, and then as a Blood Elf player, the expansion was really personal to me, and that's why I really liked it.
I liked parts of Wrath as well (Ulduar, battle for Undercity, etc), but it seems like the plot-holes around the main villain were just too big. LK was supposed to be the centerpiece, and it just wasn't well-done. That said, Ulduar WAS brilliant, and I enjoyed working with the different dragonflights. Learning more about (and fighting!) humanity's forefathers was interesting, too. Zul'darak was really interesting too; the idea of trolls sacrificing their own gods in a desperate attempt to save themselves from the Scourge is really inspired. And there's the curse of flesh, the titans... yeah, I liked pretty much everything except the execution of the LK himself. :P That and maybe the whole argent crusade/jousting thing. That kind of came out of nowhere and didn't feel all that relevant.
Vanilla was good, but all of the story-telling was in the quests. Overall, there were probably too many smaller arcs and no big overreaching theme: end-game raids were more like 'oh this bad thing suddenly is happening'. I think ZG had the best lore tie-ins, both with some quests in STV and with the whole priests-of-hakkar-in-exile quests and instance in the swamp of sorrows. You can really see the lead-up to it as you level, and I think that's engaging. AQ wasn't bad either, and it was interesting to watch mysteries from the barrens to un'goro to silithis come together.
About Cata: I like Uldum simply for the one quest where you get to burn hundreds and hundreds of gnomes in a flaming ball. As a zone, though, I agree that the stories were kind of all over the place, and I was expecting everything to tie together in the end better than it did.
Vashj'ir had problems with cohesive lore, as well... but that said, I liked it anyway for it being underwater and creating real 3D combat (fun on a pvp server :P). Great zone design, great potential... but the lore was bouncy and unfocused, and that kind of killed it for me.
Deepholm I actually liked in terms of zone design; it was open and the landscape was interesting, colourful and at times, a little breathtaking. I remember when first flying up to Therazane's Throne, I loved the colourful shafts of light... I rather liked the Silver Marshes as well. The overreaching questline could have tied to Deathwing a little deeper, I think, but I certainly didn't DISlike it.
Hyjal and Twilight Highlands I enjoyed as well-- very engaging storyline. I think everything I'd say about it has already been said.
Post by
keyur
@pocketpaladin
Most people favorite expansion is BC IF they were there. Cant comment on BC because I started WoW in WoLK. I never forget the expansion WoLK because its iconic expansion for my main Paladin.
Many people says "TBC" and "Vanilla" - where they words came from?
Post by
Adamsm
Many people says "TBC" and "Vanilla" - where they words came from?Um....from the name of the expansions? TBC = The Burning Crusade, and Vanilla is the plain start of WoW.
Post by
Mojoworkn
I'll try to find it.
28 days later...
I found it.
Not much. I agree that they feel a little too disconnected. There is supposed to be a tie-in between Yogg-Saron (the boss of Ulduar) and the Lich King, and that’s how that was supposed to make sense – through Yogg-Saron’s manipulation of world events. I don’t think that was obvious enough to the players. It’s hard for them to draw that connection even though theoretically that connection exists. In the planning stages, that wasn’t much of a factor for us, because in our minds that connection existed and was clear. We just didn’t do a very good job of expressing it.
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