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So Blizzard is introducing the ability to buy items with real money in Diablo 3. Good idea for WoW?
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Post by
Bllets
Who can it hurt and it would really kill the spam from gold sellers currently.
Those without the means to pay x$ for the specific items and there goes the balance. I don't understand why Blizzard don't kept themself on the "$$$ = Vanity" path, but i guess they aren't earning enough as it is now.
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Post by
Adamsm
I'd quit WoW if they introduced something like this into it.
Well other then the Pet Store and Loot Card items that already exist of course.....
Post by
HoleofArt
I don't like the idea - however I now wonder how it will actually work. I forsee a lot of bots farming and/or I see selling things for RL money to be pointless because of the
a) massive undercuts by people trying to make some RL money like you.
b) over-saturated market.
Well other then the Pet Store and Loot Card items that already exist of course.....
Except it isn't even close to the same. The TCGs I could see being similar only because of the RL money factor, but an in-game AH that allows RL money to be used is something entirely new for Blizzard.
Post by
SirPunky
Finally they added what D2 players are asking for 10 years: the ability to trade items for real money in a secure place and not using shady websites.
For WoW --- Bad idea.
For D3 --- Good idea.
Post by
Alkony
I'm just wondering what the taxes are going to be since Blizzard is a USA based company. Anything made via AH could easily be seen by the government as income.
Post by
shakakoz
Finally they added what D2 players are asking for 10 years: the ability to trade items for real money in a secure and not using shady websites.
And this is essential why they say they've done this. The situation in WoW is not the same as Diablo, so no one should expect to be able to buy WoW gold at the Blizzard store anytime soon. The Diablo community has long been trading these items online, whereas in WoW the trading has mostly been gold selling.
Of course, Blizz will be taking a cut in the form of a "listing fee", and if you want to turn your online cash into real cash, you will have to pay another fee. You don't have to take the cash though - you will be able to transfer it to your Battle.net account to pay for vanity pets, Sparkle Ponies, game time, whatever.
Also, I think that by Blizz taking control, they will be able to effectively control and limit auctions.
Here's another link to the story from Kotaku:
Kotaku story about Diablo 3
Post by
Thandion
So you could actually make real money by playing the Auction House?
Man, some people will NEVER leave their computers if that was the case...
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138638
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Post by
Thror
Diablo 3 is a game that is primarily focused on singleplayer and cooperative multiplayer. Whether you have super elite gear or not, it does not matter. Buying gear is going to be entirely optional, and I believe you will still be able to have a lot of fun with your friends in Diablo 3 even if you never visit the auction house.
I do not know how the PvP scene in Diablo 3 looks like, but basically, Diablo 3 is not intended to be an e-sport game. In an e-sport game, it is important that all players get to play in the same fair environment and are able to get equally good gear for equal amount of effort. That is why buying items that increase your player power is forbidden. You would be able to get an unfair advantage over others if you were rich IRL. I do not see the issue with the ability to buy player power for real life currency in a non-e-sport game. Besides, the ability to
earn
real life currency through this system is an interesting twist.
The most important thing about this system is that it makes the environment much safer for the people who were always willing to spend money for character power. You had a lot of those in Diablo 2. Buying in-game items for real life currency was always risky for them, because such trades were only provided by a third party, which could be malicious. Those people are now going to enjoy a safe way to buy their gear, provided by Blizzard themselves.
Honestly, I think people that spill drama over this are just making redundant fuss over an optional feature. If you do not like it, do not use it. I know for sure I am not going to be using it much, because I will probably be trading all good drops to my friends.
Or perhaps some people were hoping Diablo 3 would be an e-sports game. I can see why those would be disappointed, because this system would throw the balance off in favor of people with a lot of money to spend. I have never seen any e-sport potential in Diablo 3 though (And even WoW is fairly bad in the e-sport department. Starcraft would be the best in this regard, out of Blizz games.), so this is not something that bothers me.
What makes me wonder though is that... thanks to this, people will be able to generate profit through playing Diablo 3, and so far, that profit only seems to be taxed by Blizzard. Is everyone (read: Governments) going to be fine with this?
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138638
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Post by
Morbanth
Completely different beasts.
Post by
Thror
WoW didn't have an e-sport element until BC came in with arenas, and even blizz said arenas were a mistake, if anything WoW is e-sport lite, any game with PvP will have some competition, Diablo 3 will have PvP and thus a competitive factor, the fact it'll be a competitive game alone should warrant having a semi-even playing field.
Ya you can earn money, you know except for the fact you'll be getting charged out the ass for using that earned money on any non-blizzard product.
People in WoW buy gold and use a 3rd party to get said gold, that doesn't mean it should be encouraged, especially
considering things like this
Now you just made it so people like the one's in the linked article don't need to be/use a 3rd party. Good job now you can't get banned/need to use much caution for using pay-to-win/encouraging things mentioned in the article.
Even if you don't use it, it'll affect the in game economy meaning if you ever buy something via the AH even with in-game currency it affects you even if you never touched the real currency feature
Most gamers wouldn't exactly classify WoW as an e-sport, it has 1 aspect which can be considered an e-sport, which even the devs have said was a bad idea to put in. Again E-sports lite at best.
I do not see how your opinion on how much of an e-sport WoW is matters. It is clear that Blizzard supports the e-sport potential of WoW by not allowing the players to buy direct power (items). It is also clear that a game that has yearly tournaments with hundreds of participants (and prizes) and such extreme competetive community as WoW
is
an e-sport game. The "arenas were a mistake" piece could be i-don't-know-how old and said by i-don't-know-who, and does not reflect reality. On the other hand, competetive PvP is not a main focus of Diablo 3, as far as I know (a.k.a. who cares that it is not going to be super balanced).
If you think the ingame AH system overseered and taxed by Blizzard is going to seem attractive to the Chinese farmers, then I would like to remind you that that is just something that
you think
. You know, I can not really see into the heads of the chinese businessmen that lead these farms, but neither can you. At the end of the day, a safe trading environment is always better than a dangerous trading environment.
Even if you do not use it, it will affect
what
? In game economy? As far as I know, "in game economy" in Diablo 3 is gonna generate prizes of items in NPC shops by genuine things like their level, quality, sockets, and item set potential, and if you do not use it, it will not affect your game in any way.
You seem to be suffering an allergic reaction against the principle of "paying for winning", but you do not understand that paying for winning can be wrong in some games, and harmless in others.
Post by
TheBigFoot
That makes it into wow.... you bet your ass I'm done.
Post by
Hank
blizz said arenas were a mistakeI would like to see that. Please source.
Post by
Lenience
That makes it into wow.... you bet your ass I'm done.
Well, bye.
Post by
Adamsm
blizz said arenas were a mistakeI would like to see that. Please source.
During one of the original Q&A's; they admitted that the Arena as it was, was a flawed system, and they wanted to make it better if at all possible.
Post by
OverZealous
Completely different beasts.
This.
You can't compare WoW to D3 - the situations are completely different and so are the desires of their respective communities.
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