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Why do so many people hate Deathknights?
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Post by
DraconisAerius
I dislike death knights mostly for their massive amount of defensive abilities in PvP. And I still wonder why death grip is in the game and why they would ever need a stun on their pet.
That's the only stun we have. And seriously, you wana talk about defensive cd's? Let's talk about LoH and all those Prot Pally CD's....
Oh and I also think tanking with a 2 handed weapon is stupid, come on.
So you don't like druids either? Glad you are so open to new experiences.
Post by
woohaa
it's funny cause 2handed tanking has been around since TBC. it's not really new but i guess when your retarded and need to find a reason to hate your pretty close minded and just pick something stupid. Defensive CDs aren't specific to a dk either...every tanking spec has them. I have a druid and a DK and by no means does my blood dk do that well in pvp. Sure it's interesting to sit there and get wailed on and heal yourself but you can't kill anyone by yourself.
Feral druids on the other hand....get 3 stacks of lacerate and pop pulverize and berzerk. Now that's retarded...you don't just kill one person you can kill 4 if their dumb enough to sit there and hit you...feral druids don't have the self healing capabilies of a dk but there just as irritating to kill and do more dmg.
Post by
Samuriel
it's funny cause 2handed tanking has been around since TBC. it's not really new but i guess when your retarded and need to find a reason to hate
Yeah, I'm retarded because I have a different opinion from yours.
Post by
Trishi
I dislike death knights mostly for their massive amount of defensive abilities in PvP. And I still wonder why death grip is in the game and why they would ever need a stun on their pet.
That's the only stun we have. And seriously, you wana talk about defensive cd's? Let's talk about LoH and all those Prot Pally CD's....
Not to mention Frost Mages... It's arguably worse for melee classes. I'd actually say that it's pretty stupid that the only stun we have is on our pet. It excludes Frost and Blood from a reliable stun. Only Unholy have free access to it.
But I agree, we have a ton of defensive cooldowns. And why is that bad? Is it because it hurts your inflated ego to hit someone who just wont die? I bet you hated Resto Druids pre-cata, especially late Wrath. Those guys were nigh-invulnerable, with an infinite mana supply. Blood DKs are tough to kill, but not tough to defeat. Come 4.3... this might change. But we can't really know for sure yet.
Oh and I also think tanking with a 2 handed weapon is stupid, come on.
So you don't like druids either? Glad you are so open to new experiences.
I love those arguments. It's stupid that they use a 2-handed weapon... they need a shield, or they suck. Oh, no wait, Druids can't even
parry
, yet they still manage. Faceblock ftw.
Post by
alexko9
I dont hate DKs, i hate noob DKs that just roll blood and think they are amazing
For instance last night ran a 350 blood dk thru BoT, no gems no enchants. i was healing, he died at leaset once per fight he tanked being he was squishy as hell, with only 140k as a DK...
Also right after that get on alt to do some random BGs to twink out and see a blood dk chilling in SW with tier 11 shoulders, and guess what? not a single enchant or gem, i mean come on you say your poor? oh let me check your rep did u ever do TB dailys? *whats that?* did you ever at least do quest for tabard and get dailys in MF started? *Um WTF are you talking about?* meanwhile he has the rep cape on from AoH... oh and the other best excuse *Im collecting data from elitist jerks on what to gem and enchant* that made me so mad, cause i mean he has a FOUR piece set bonus on his gear, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO FIND OUT HOW TO GEM? i mean for naarus sake just go to the AH and get a gem that you think is good, ask a guildy, seriously its not like theres 100 viable gems for a dk tank!
TL;DR most dks are noobs
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Post by
Trishi
itt: bad tanks being bad and complaining about how they can't threat
I'm afraid I have to agree partially with this... While the initial pull (IE: Attacking a mob before the tank even touched anything) is 100 % the fault of the DPS, any tank can easily gain aggro, exp/hit capped or not. DKs using a BB or 2 is enough if you really have to, Holy Wrath is king at getting some initial snap aggro, and Hammer of the Righteous isn't exactly bad AoE either. Druids have Swipe and Trash, and Warriors got Shockwave and Thunderclap. No tank are currently lacking proper AoE snap aggro.
pally tank throws av but only hits 2 of 4 targets* but the dk uses hbx2. guess who is tanking the extra adds? some still use DnD on the initial pull and wonder why they are eating dirt for lunch. as a healer i don't heal them and i won't taunt off them while tanking.
AV hits 3 targets but troll dungeons have packs of 4.
Great example to prove my point. If the Pally uses Avenger's Shield (I'm assuming this is what av is?), and hit's 3 targets. Someone hits 4, and obviously pulls aggro from the last mob that wasn't hit. Assuming everything goes wrong, and the DPS dies, what happens next pull?
If you want to tell me that you would pull with AS
again
, you fail as a tank, and as a player. You can do 2 things: 1. Tell the dps to give you a few seconds, or 2.
just use another spell that properly does the job instead.
.
If the first thing doesn't work, move on to the second. That never fails. Of course, the problem can still persist if someone HB spams before you even engage the group, but by then, this ceases to have any relation to a tanks skill level. It's pure and simply about DPS being horrible.
And of course, if you can still manage to fix it, and feel comfortable doing it, then good for you! You must be an excellent tank then! Just don't expect everyone to be capable of that same feat.
Post by
Sallara
TL;DR most dks are noobs
Yeah, and you are probably just saying that because most of the death knights you see are level 58s.
Post by
archonoid
i dont understand ppl whining about dk's... if u think dk's too op or easy to play then start with one and play with it and SHUT THE F.CK UP... you know dk's start at lvl 55 so easier to reach max level than orher classes..
my friend got a holy paladin and a frost mage which are op specs rightnow in wow (my opinion).. he is complaining about dk's ... what the f.ck wrong with you ppl
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apocalypsa
Maybe this has something to do with it.
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Post by
KingdomKnight
They hate us because they either; sucked at being one, or met one or more individuals who did. There is also a general dislike of change which everyone has on some slight level. Some people just dislike change a lot more than others.
Post by
Problimatic
This guy
is what makes dks have such negative stereotypes. Yesterday I got deadmines as a random running for satchels, and that was one of my dps..... A dual wielding blood dk with a mix of agi, dps str, and tank gear. Thankfully most death knights are significantly better than that.
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Problimatic
This guy
is what makes dks have such negative stereotypes. Yesterday I got deadmines as a random running for satchels, and that was one of my dps..... A dual wielding blood dk with a mix of agi, dps str, and tank gear. Thankfully most death knights are significantly better than that.
Wow...just wow.
Thats what I was saying.
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