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Is WoW on its deathbed?
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Post by
Karrie
It's over. World of Warcraft is finished.
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Post by
lonewarrior
I have to ponder when I read comments about the game becoming "boring". I have to ask why?
There are people who participate in casual activities for years without becoming bored of it.
People in bowling leagues, softball leagues, chess clubs..etc.
The routine never really changes much. So what is the common thread through it all? As I've stated many times in the past, it's the comradely and familiarity of people enjoying a common interest.
As much as someone likes to bowl, they do so because they share that fun and success with familiar faces.
Now imagine if that someone who for years went to the same bowling alley and played in the same league now was ask to go to different alleys and play with unfamiliar players every week(aka LFD)
It's still bowling...yet something is missing.
This is what happened to WoW in my opinion. The current format has fragmented the "familiarity" side of this game.
A friends list used to be almost like a secondary guild. LFD put that into disuse.
Even inside guilds that connective feeling is being lost. There is a residual effect as well. Familiar faces doing dungeon runs would converse about having leveling alts which would extend their friendship beyond just runs."Hey after this run, my friend and I are going to level our alts...you want to come along? ".."sure I was going to level with my brother lets all meet in Stormwind and fly out"
Leveling today is an example of solitude. Almost everything including quest that required groups can be soloed. Dungeon runs=LFD, nuff said there. Nerfs and buffs make raid pugging accessible. How many of us typical remember the people we pugged with.
It just seems that Blizz has done everything possible to make "you/I" more successfully at the expense of "we/us" accomplishing anything together.
Think about all those 1 player xbox/ps games sitting on your shelve collecting dust. You could probably pop anyone of those in and ace them, yet there they sit on the shelf..why?
Call it "ego" call it whatever you like..but success without a pat on the back, high five or "gratz" from familiar faces and friends leaves an empty feeling, that eventually leads to boredom.
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Post by
Adamsm
Actually, I heard of some organism that doesn't die of old age - your argument is invalid.
There you go.
Lobsters too.
Post by
OverZealous
Actually, I heard of some organism that doesn't die of old age - your argument is invalid.
There you go.
Thank
you
(=
Post by
lonewarrior
I have to ponder when I read comments about the game becoming "boring". I have to ask why?
There are people who participate in casual activities for years without becoming bored of it.
People in bowling leagues, softball leagues, chess clubs..etc.
You are comparing a video game to RL. Apples to oranges. RL has unlimited sustainability due to actual and complete human/environment interaction (i.e. infinite possiblities). Video games do not have that luxury (i.e. finite possiblities), especially when you throw anonymity into the mix.
WoW is probably the longest lasting video game, that has been able to maintain a HUGE playerbase, in the history of video games. They are doing a lot of things right.
People are possibly getting nitpicky about things nowadays because they have played this game for so long, and are getting bored. They expect a video game to give the sustainiability of RL experiences. So things that would not have phased them when they started playing this game are now frustrating them.
Just my opinion.
You don't consider WoW a RL activity.
Let see...
Person A come homes from work...Person B comes home form work.
Both bowl in the same league and will meet at the same alley.
They are not RL friends..they are bowling friends...they met through acquaintances and now bowl on the same team.
They both go to the alley at 7:pm and enjoy competitive bowling for a few hours.
They converse among themselves and other league members. Share a few drinks have a few laughs talk about how work sucks :).
Bowling games are over..."see you guys next time"
WoW related...
Person A come homes from work...Person B comes home form work.
Both play on the same server and guild.
Replace bowling with leveling/dungeon/raiding.
All the same kind of communication and interaction is still there. Only thing missing is a physical presence.
Physical presence is not the conduit to building sustainable friendships.
"Built in anonymity". Yes I totally agree...which was an inhibition that was meant to be overcome by positive interaction. It was the platform this game was built on. That's no longer the case.
Not trying to be smug with my reply...I can respect your opinion. I do have to take issue with people who still see the internet as some wall...I see it as a conduit to meeting people we would never have normally met in a typical life situation.
Yes people can pretend to be whatever they like over the internet but so can people BS their true nature in real life.
If we become familiar with each other, we drop our guards and extend a friendship.
I found the friendship I built playing this game over the years a crutch for overcoming the repetitiveness boredom that could easily have set in. It made me more tolerable to mistakes made. It made me a better person to be around as we all tend to be when we are among familiar people. It made me a "paying" customer.
There was a level of maturity to this game that has sunk to new lows. There is a fickleness to many of this new genre of players.
If you want to wrap what has been going on lately into one word "frustration" comes to mind.
My opinion...maybe...
Blizz sub. numbers say otherwise... numbers that grew through original and 2 expansions now see negative growth. Those other expansion subs numbers grew because the foundation subscribers stayed. That foundation is pulling out now. For every new player being added a greater number is quitting...thus the neg numbers.
Spin it any way you like for a reason why..but you can bet Activision/Blizz is worried.
Will they figure it out before Old Republic hits the street...that remains to be seen.
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Post by
Interest
Actually, I heard of some organism that doesn't die of old age - your argument is invalid.
There you go.
Mind = blown.
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422399
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Post by
OverZealous
That's such bull!@#$. Just because that mode suits your personality better doesn't mean that everyone else's mind works the same. I really don't understand where your hate comes from but I guess that's just the way you are.
So you think that the strongest friendships are sustained by people who have never actually met in person? Maybe I'm just old school, and believe that actually helping/sharing with people both physically and mentally is part of a strong relationship. You literally can't do half of that online.
Also, there is no hate in my posts. You're the only one cursing.
But you don't have an avatar. Everyone knows people without avatars are haters.
Seriously though, I agree with what you're saying. There are exceptions, as there are to everything, but it is definetly more common to create deep bonds of friendship with people you meet face-to-face than those you meet online.
Post by
TheReal
It's = It is, which is a contraction
Its = Possessive pronoun
Just FYI
Thank you. EVERYONE TAKE NOTE PLEASE.
Post by
Monday
It's = It is, which is a contraction
Its = Possessive pronoun
Just FYI
Thank you. EVERYONE TAKE NOTE PLEASE.
I think you should add the differences between you're and your to your sig. I saw somebody int he RP's today say roughly the following "Your not doing it right," which was followed by "you're paper is on fire!"
Or something like that. I epic facepalmed after seeing multiple mix ups. I honestly don't see what is so hard about that.
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TheReal
I think you should add the differences between you're and your to your sig. I saw somebody int he RP's today say roughly the following "Your not doing it right," which was followed by "you're paper is on fire!"
It was already there. It's been moved to the virtual English classroom:
http://www.wowhead.com/user=TheRealArkayn
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Post by
lonewarrior
Let me jump back in real quick to respond to YJMARK.
I am not comparing real life buddies to WoW friendship...I'm equaling it to any kind of real life activity that brings people of common interest and over time builds a friendship in regards to that activity.
So using myself for an example..I use to play racquet ball. I would meet every weekend, when I could with pretty much the same group of people. After we were done we all went our separate ways but playing with them and friends they would bring along built a comfortable familiarity and common friendship.
WoW is no different in my opinion. Friendship starts with communication. I don't need to be there with them to share a drink..I share a raid with them. We use vent to share jokes, stories life in general some times. I had a young lady who would play a piano recital in vent after we finished raiding. I can honestly say my guild members were as close to being friends as my real life ones..sometimes even better cause they left their real life crap at the log in screen and brought only the best of what they were into my WoW existence. Maybe it's just me...maybe I got lucky.I met great people.
Sometimes there is a stigma about playing WoW...like it's an human abnormality or something...nonsense. A good person is a good person no matter the endeavor.
Do I live in this game...no, it's an activity just like any other kind..I do it to unwind. I do it to be with family. I never played an MMO before WoW...can't say I will afterwards.
Just on funny side note...I tease my nephew the other day when he was playing Xbox online with a bunch of his friends. I told him, when I was growing up..after school we would all agree to meet up in the park and play some ball...these days the teens gather together outside of school and agree to go home and meet up online to play xbox...so in truth RL and internet have become intertwined to the point where the line is quickly becoming indistinguishable.
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Post by
FarseerLolotea
WoW is not on its deathbed, to be sure, but I do think it's resting on its laurels. There feels like a distinct lack of effort this expansion, a sense that the developers did not put as much work into this as they did in prior expansions, or even vanilla WoW. While WoW may not be in its death throes, I do think the developers and designers need to wake up, see what's wrong, and correct the course. Another lazy expansion like Cataclysm may not even kill WoW, but it certainly won't help.This pretty much covers it. Sure, it's still going strong...but Blizzard is getting complacent. So there's slippage, and corners have been cut.
And to top all of that off, it's beginning to show its age. (The character model revamps that are supposedly on the agenda will certainly do
something
to ameliorate that.)
These are exactly the reasons why for me Cata is a big let down. It is boring and uninspired. It has no charisma, it just feels silly and childish.... The marriage of Thrall with Aggra was there to top it all. Just ridiculous. C'mon! It's a child fairy tale.The recent writing smacks of fanfic. And not
good
fanfic like
Travels Through Azeroth and Outland
or
Dalaran Noir
, either. Hell, I could name fanfic writers whom I've
snarked
who could do better.
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