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U.S. atheists sue to run bus ads for a God-free lifestyle
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Post by
Azazel
Yay I will be lauded at!
What does lauded mean again?...
Post by
Monday
Praised.
Post by
OverZealous
And this, like all threads with even remote connection to religion, has jumped up to several pages already. Funny how that works.
Post by
Azazel
The day there is no religious discussion on these forums, we know for sure the earth has been taken over by aliens.
Post by
Thror
The day there is no religious discussion on these forums, we know for sure the earth has been taken over by aliens.
I guess the kittens are in a lose-lose situation then.
Post by
Monday
Poor kittehs D=
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238331
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Post by
TheReal
I believe there is a common misconception about atheists: that we're all passive. Religious people tend to think of us as immoral people who couldn't give a $%^& less what other people believe. Maybe I'm being that extremist mentioned earlier, but I would like to assert that without religion the world would be a better place. I DO care what religious people believe because it's *!@#ing up our world. I WANT religious people to realize that they believe in fables. I would be HAPPY to convert people to atheism just the same way that religious people would be happy to convert to me.
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Post by
irishsnout
I am a Christian but I gotta say let the atheists place the ad. It's freedom of speech that is protected by the costitution. Once you start limiting it, then the ones who really have something important to say, will not be allowed to. The argument of God vs no god will not end until we are extinct or God comes down with the, "I told ya so hammer."
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Monday
I believe there is a common misconception about atheists: that we're all passive. Religious people tend to think of us as immoral people who couldn't give a $%^& less what other people believe. Maybe I'm being that extremist mentioned earlier, but I would like to assert that without religion the world would be a better place. I DO care what religious people believe because it's *!@#ing up our world. I WANT religious people to realize that they believe in fables. I would be HAPPY to convert people to atheism just the same way that religious people would be happy to convert to me.
How exactly is religion messing up the world?
I'd like examples that couldn't be caused by any other source.
Post by
Heckler
How exactly is religion messing up the world?
I'd like examples that couldn't be caused by any other source.
That's a pretty malformed question.. Can you name one way Religion is making the world BETTER that couldn't be caused by any other source?
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Monday
How exactly is religion messing up the world?
I'd like examples that couldn't be caused by any other source.
That's a pretty malformed question.. Can you name one way Religion is making the world BETTER that couldn't be caused by any other source?
No. That's the point, nobody knows how the world would be if there was no religion. For all we know, there might have been a nuclear holocaust already and killed everyone, or it might be a perfect place. It's literally not possible to know. I know, however, that my religion does a lot of good in the world, spiritually and physically.
Post by
Heckler
No. That's the point, nobody knows how the world would be if there was no religion. For all we know, there might have been a nuclear holocaust already and killed everyone, or it might be a perfect place. It's literally not possible to know.
Hmm, fair enough. If your point is that everything that's been said both against religion
and
in support of religion is equally frivolous from your perspective, then point taken.
Post by
Dragalthor
How exactly is religion messing up the world?
I'd like examples that couldn't be caused by any other source.
That's a pretty malformed question.. Can you name one way Religion is making the world BETTER that couldn't be caused by any other source?
No. That's the point, nobody knows how the world would be if there was no religion. For all we know, there might have been a nuclear holocaust already and killed everyone, or it might be a perfect place. It's literally not possible to know. I know, however, that my religion does a lot of good in the world, spiritually and physically.
Well we do have an idea from the Soviet Russia. One of the premises of Marxo-Leninist communism was that abolition of religion in favour of atheism and look where that got them. I'm not saying here that either theism or atheism are wrong for individuals per se but we do have an insight into what can happen in an atheistic society.
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138638
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Post by
Orranis
Argent O_o
And yeah, it's crap. The best part is that I literally saw, today, on the subway, an add that was "Are you praying? Millions are." On a sky-and-cloud background. I think the format they did it was for the irony.
Post by
Dragalthor
I wasn't trying to make an example of anything merely point out where state led atheism has led in the past and that when used in this way is just as bad as any other religion led by people who wish only to serve their own desires.
The main problem that we see with most religions is not the religions themselves but the spin put on them by those that wish to wield power and use said religion in order to do so. Mass hysteria has been long documented and also the ways in which so-called religious priest's, Imam's etc have used this phenomenon to further their own causes which do not necessarily co-exist with the ideals of the religion which they are using.
The argument I was trying to state was the old idiom of power corrupts and total power totally corrupts and this applies to both theist and atheist groups.
Back OT the last time I used the London underground there were more advertisements for Messr Dawkins and atheism than there were for religious groups of any persuasion and I can honestly say, as a Christian, that I wasn't bothered in the slightest.
Post by
Gone
What I am reading in this thread is a lot of double standards. I don't care if a bus ad depicts a happy Jewish family because it doesn't offend me (everyone has a right to believe as they choose), but an atheistic ad just grinds my gears.
Im right there with you, honestly problems like this wouldnt happen if people were just a bit more accepting of each others beliefs (not to sound like an after school special there)
Problems like this wouldn't happen if everyone woke up and realized that religion, as a whole, is based on mythology and fables. Once everyone decides that the one factor that separates many groups, religion, is nothing but a way for the clergy to make money, then we'll see a little bit more harmony in the world.
Did you really just come at my argument of "this world would be a better place if we were more accepting of each other"
with
"religion and religious people should all gtfo"?
Honestly dude you just proved my point about the problem. All people, religious, atheist, agnostic, whatever should learn to accept other peoples faith or lack there of and respect it. If that were the case then we would have a lot less problems as a society.
Honestly dude I kind of get the feeling your on the young side when you respond to an argument about tolerance with "Im right and the rest of the world should just relise that and get with the picture"
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Gone
(posting from my phone so I cant edit, sorry for the double post)
Also Idk who said this, but I think that attacking somones religion is just as bad as attacking somones race. Religion may be a choice, but it dosnt mean a person should ever be persecuited for that choice. A large part of why this country was founded was for religious freedome.
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