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Total Biscuit Quits WoW
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Post by
ExDementia
I kinda havnt liked this guy for a while, he used to be kool but like so many others once he got really popular he kinda went down hill
I actually like him because he hasn't given in to his popularity. His views are the same as they were in the beginning.
I like it that he shows so little bias between games.
Idk it seems like since he got popular he got a little full of himself. Like if you ever read his youtube comments he gets so pissy anytime anybody critisizes one of his videos.
That's funny because he has said for a long time that he doesn't look at his comments, he has a team collecting feedback.
Post by
Interest
I kinda havnt liked this guy for a while, he used to be kool but like so many others once he got really popular he kinda went down hill
I actually like him because he hasn't given in to his popularity. His views are the same as they were in the beginning.
I like it that he shows so little bias between games.
Idk it seems like since he got popular he got a little full of himself. Like if you ever read his youtube comments he gets so pissy anytime anybody critisizes one of his videos.
That's funny because he has said for a long time that he doesn't look at his comments, he has a team collecting feedback.
That's true, but prior to it he was rather pissy.
Post by
ExDementia
That's true, but prior to it he was rather pissy.
I do remember that, but I also remember the comments being completely ridiculous in the first place. But then again I didn't look at too many of them so I could very well have missed it.
Edit: Just watched the episode, I pretty much agree with everything he said, I just don't care about it enough to quit.
Post by
kidkonsequence
As much as I enjoy his videos, it is no loss that will effect me. As a mage, I'm constantly appalled by his poor gameplay.
Post by
Badguy
Not a fan, I don't really care what he does.
He doesn't deserve to be bashed, nor does he deserve people quitting because he made this decision either.
Post by
kemppy
While i do agree with many of his points,i don't think that switching to Rift is the solution,i played Rift just for one hour in my friend's account and let's just say that this experience was ....not pleasant for me.
i hate rift, i was in the beta and thought ok i like the idea, but then soon as it went live i was like, well this game isnt all that good, the one thing rift has going for it (and i know it is more cos it is smaller) is that they have people whop are able to re-write an entire spec over night, and not just a little one day it was range all of a sudden melee, that is all, but as i said it is smaller, and who knows, may not go that far
Post by
lonewarrior
I never had heard of this person nor seen any of his videos, but he pretty much parallel my thoughts and post. He represents the dieing voices of those players who loved BC type contents and raiding.
The biggest problem with BC content was that it was unaccessible for most. Which is why they shifted. However, I don't see anyone having problems with the sheer amount of content BC had, which is what I find people enjoyed. I mean, you had a TON of repgrinds to do, and you could do them however you wanted.
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Here is where you and I differ ever so slightly in our views. To me it wasn't inaccessible. If that were the case then no one could have accomplished. If one person can do it then the majority can too.
It's just a matter of ability. This game required, at least back then, a bit of intellectualism. If you were willing to commit to understanding the intricacy of the game you could achieve most if not all the contents, each individual at their own pace.
I guess this is what puts me at odds with the current game philosophy. The "you don't have to work hard at it" approach.
Using real life examples...those of you in college taking honor courses. Would you not have grievances if the college decide to lower the standards to allow more people entrance and thus diminishing the value the courses to the point of rendering them meaningless to potential employers.
Or baseball...those of you a baseball fan...who isn't a critic of steroids use in the game and how it diminished the values of homer runs. It was considered cheating. So Barry Bonds hit 73 homers...big deal now.
In essence Blizz is helping players to cheat/by diminishing the standards just so they can have their epics. Whoop-di-do.
Finally at least with BC I got my moneys worth. Every level of raid contents matter. What about the poor saps that pick up this game months from now and have to pretty much skip over contents except for the current content patch at that time. Like buying a book and then being told on the first page to go to the last chapter. Talk about no value for the dollars spent.
Post by
doombringer
If he feels Blizzard has slighted him, or in some way misstepped, then he's entitled to feel that way.
Personally, I think the only disservice Blizzard would be doing to the community (all of it) would be the premium Real-ID cross-realm grouping service. That would affect a great many people as part of a core game system. The Normal raid difficulty getting nerfed... I'm not sure who that negatively impacts. Anyone who wanted the challenge has likely already finished Normal-mode BWD/BT/C4W, possibly even Heroic-mode, and won't be going back. Anyone just coming in to raiding, or if they've been stuck for a while, will likely appreciate the boost.
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606231
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Post by
ExDementia
This is what Azeroth Daily turned into
I guess I'll still be watching TB on my lunch breaks ;)
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812974
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Post by
MrSCH
If one person can do it then the majority can too.
I don't agree with this at all. If we set the speed limit to 200 mph minimum because one person in his Veyron can do it, we can all do it? If we say that because Michael Jordan could put three pointers in like they were lay-ups, does that mean we can all do it?
You get the point. Of course it's "a question of ability" - some players had the millions of hours and skills to wipe endlessly and rep grind, but if you look at the amount of Guilds killing Illidan when he was the big man, you'll see it was very low. BC content was notoriously inacessable for casual players.
Post by
lonewarrior
If one person can do it then the majority can too.
I don't agree with this at all. If we set the speed limit to 200 mph minimum because one person in his Veyron can do it, we can all do it? If we say that because Michael Jordan could put three pointers in like they were lay-ups, does that mean we can all do it?
You get the point. Of course it's "a question of ability" - some players had the millions of hours and skills to wipe endlessly and rep grind, but if you look at the amount of Guilds killing Illidan when he was the big man, you'll see it was very low. BC content was notoriously inacessable for casual players.
Was MJ the only one who could hit a three pointer? Lots of NBA scorers can shoot a 3 pointer maybe not as prolific as MJ but they can still do it.
I don't get your speed limit analogy. Are we talking just stepping on the gas pedal or the ability to handle such a car and if it's the latter then well just like raiding, if you can't handle it don't try it.
People who wipe endlessly are not good players and shouldn't be raiding. You don't need millions of hours you just need productive hours.
As for the numbers that killed Illidan...so!. Like any competition, only the best rise to the top.
I never got to kill him before Wrath release. I wasn't owed a Illidan killed and I wouldn't ask Blizz to nerf it at the expense of the hardcore players. I was satisfied where I was at that point in progression. I'm not going to say that Blizz couldn't find a better way to make contents accessible, but nerfing it or negating it is not the solution. I've put forth viable solutions in other posts
What Total Biscuits and players like myself are trying to say is...WHY!
Are there not already a ka-zillion lock and load games available. Did that genre of players also need to consume WoW as well. WoW raiding was for the type of players who like chesss, rubix cube, dungeon & dragons or any other type of mental challenge that made us try to unravel the layers of difficulty. This game grew on that premise.
I don't solely blame Blizz, I fault Activision more. When they bought the company. If they wanted an MMO that was in line with their vision why didn't they just create their own, why did they have to skew with WoW original format. This is what happens when smaller companies become just a line in a larger companies stable. They think they know better...well a 5% drop in subscriptions is telling them otherwise and if they think it's due content consumption, that percentage will continue to rise.
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298296
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Post by
xaratherus
As for the numbers that killed Illidan...so!. Like any competition, only the best rise to the top.
But this isn't a competition.
I don't raid so that I can say that I beat the other 11 million players in the game. I raid for fun and to enjoy the fights.
Blizzard spent hundreds - possibly thousands - of man-hours and a huge sum of money to create Black Temple. They didn't design it so that a small portion of the playerbase could feel like special snowflakes - they designed it to be played and enjoyed by the people who play the game.
I've mentioned this before but I'll say it again: A game designer who designs a game wherein the penultimate content of the game
has poorly designed the game
. This doesn't mean the content should not be challenging - but if it is
so
challenging that less than 5% of the people who play ever saw it while it was end game content, then the design is bad - plain and simple.
Aestu used to make a comparison with Super Mario Brothers. He seemed to think that Super Mario Brothers invalidated my argument based on the idea that very few people had beat it. Every single person that I know who played that game beat it - and most beat it on the 'harder mode' that would become available after you played through once. Was it challenging? Yes. But was it so challenging that only a handful of the people who played the game beat it? No - and that's one of the (many) things that made it a hugely successful game.
Post by
lankybrit
Here's another analogy.
I spend $400 on a iPad. Later, they lower the price to $300. Now people can get it for less than I paid.
Guess what - no big deal.
Cheers.
Post by
Monday
As for the numbers that killed Illidan...so!. Like any competition, only the best rise to the top.
But this isn't a competition.
I don't raid so that I can say that I beat the other 11 million players in the game. I raid for fun and to enjoy the fights.
Blizzard spent hundreds - possibly thousands - of man-hours and a huge sum of money to create Black Temple. I've mentioned this before but I'll say it again: A game designer who designs a game wherein the penultimate content of the game
has poorly designed the game
. This doesn't mean the content should not be challenging - but if it is
so
challenging that less than 5% of the people who play ever saw it while it was end game content, then the design is bad - plain and simple.
This ^
lonewarrior, you seem to be pretty elitist, one of those jerks who goes "I had the time and will to get into raiding, so why can't you?"
Now, I'm not going to pull the whole "I don't have time for raiding" thing, because most of the time it's a pretty sad excuse, but for awhile in BC it was true. You had to take the time to level, the time to grind heroics, then a group and time to grind earlier raids to get into later raids.
Congrats on being there the whole way through, but it's pretty unfair to players who don't have quite the amount of time or who joined late. I, personally, think Cataclysm's way was the best (I enjoyed Wrath's raiding, especially ICC, but that was mostly because of the story/setting than the actual fights. I did enjoy some of those as well. So shoot me).
Post by
rabican1
Really? Why do people care?
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115812
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