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Osama Bin Laden is dead
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Gone
Woot worlds first kill. Who got it, Paragon?
No but in all seriousness its nice to have this finaly over, ten years later. I hope this can bring some measure of peace to all the familys that have suffered both here and in the middle east.
Post by
donnymurph
I hope this can bring some measure of peace to all the familys that have suffered both here and in the middle east.
At the hands of the U.S?
Post by
Cambo
With all due respect Donny, any small-time conflict in Sydney can't be compared to religious troubles like in India or any Muslim state.
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Post by
donnymurph
With all due respect Donny, any small-time conflict in Sydney can't be compared to religious troubles like in India or any Muslim state.
Doubtless, however that doesn't change the fact that I'm glad not to be there right now.
Post by
Gone
I hope this can bring some measure of peace to all the familys that have suffered both here and in the middle east.
At the hands of the U.S?
Obviously not, how would his death bring them any comfort?
OH HUR DUR UR BEING SARCASTIC.
Post by
donnymurph
OH HUR DUR UR BEING SARCASTIC.Sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit, but sometimes it is just so extremely called for.
Post by
Cambo
Doubtless, however that doesn't change the fact that I'm glad not to be there right now.
Usually I am quite reserved with my discussion, but in this case I will make an exception here.
Are the muslims in those suburbs you mentioned known or proven to be extremists?
Are you aware that extremist muslims are in fact a small fraction of the global muslim family?
Post by
Squishalot
Yeah, but don't underestimate morale either. It's possible that they'll be scattered and in confusion for the next few weeks. As a complete non-expert who has no knowledge of real strategy, I feel like a smart thing to do would be to pressure Al Quaeda with drone strikes and whatnot and keep them on the defensive, and hopeful eliminate their presence for the most part. It's never gonna truly be "over", but if we can capitalize we can turn the tide a lot.
But really, what in that strategy should be changed pre/post OBL death? Nothing. The anti-terrorist forces will still be doing exactly the same thing before, sans looking specifically for OBL.
If they don't, then they're being lulled into the false sense of security, as I highlighted earlier.
Al Qaeda hasn't been doing that much in recent years, relative to the first couple of years following the WTC attacks. The death of a 'leader' who much of the world has presumed dead for the last half decade isn't going to change very much.
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Squishalot
Doubtless, however that doesn't change the fact that I'm glad not to be there right now.
Usually I am quite reserved with my discussion, but in this case I will make an exception here.
Are the muslims in those suburbs you mentioned known or proven to be extremists?
Are you aware that extremist muslims are in fact a small fraction of the global muslim family?
Actually, the main reason I'd want to avoid it is due to the general wave of anti-Muslim sentiment that's likely to descend on those suburbs, not because those Muslims are extremists.
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donnymurph
Usually I am quite reserved with my discussion, but in this case I will make an exception here.
Are the muslims in those suburbs you mentioned known or proven to be extremists?
Are you aware that extremist muslims are in fact a small fraction of the global muslim family?Generally, the Muslims in Sydney are quite inoffensive to be around, and are contributing members of society. However, Sydney's Muslims
are
capable of extreme acts of violence, as evidenced by a)
The 2005 Cronulla Riots
(in which the caucasians admittedly caused just as much damage as the "men of Middle Eastern appearance"; and b)
The Muslim Brotherhood
, which is one of the largest gangs in Sydney.
It only takes a few violent people, not an entire population, to make everyone else feel unsafe.
Actually, the main reason I'd want to avoid it is due to the general wave of anti-Muslim sentiment that's likely to descend on those suburbs, not because those Muslims are extremists.Also, this, which was what I meant by my original statement.
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151311
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Post by
gnomerdon
In all seriousness, I think the people who are being all sunshine and happiness about this are being too positive,
You mean the people who lost their relatives and family members on 9/11?
Post by
donnymurph
Because killing a scapegoat brings back their loved ones.
"An eye for an eye will only send the world blind"
- Mahatma Ghandi.
Post by
Perkocet
^&*! YEAH CONSPIRACIES.
Post by
Aimsyr
Hrm, not sure what to think about this. It is probably a good thing Bin Laden is dead, but as with the killing of all such leaders there is a risk that someone far more dangerous will take control, of Al Qaeda in this case. It will truly be interesting to see what happens to that organisation after this event. And I do foresee revenge strikes against the US by his followers and sympathizers, or at least attempts at those kinds of things, whether Al Qaeda crumbles or not.
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149406
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Post by
MrSCH
I'm pretty chuffed about it.
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190432
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Post by
donnymurph
I'm pretty chuffed about it.
Now, I don't mean to sound patronizing here, but I am genuinely intrigued. What is it that you think Bin Laden's death will change? In what way do you think your life is now going to become so much better that you are "chuffed" about his death?
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