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Post by
Atik
Well, he has chosen not the ideal way to put it, don't you think so? And if anything, dominatrix is gonna get balefired with all the other objects on Silvia, so no harm done there - provided Hyper doesn't miss, of course.
And the dominatrix is just as important as Silvia. It is her, for all intents and purposes. And Logan is, at no point here, willing to sit back and let Balefire fly.
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Post by
Behelich
Er, what? Star-Pelt will be angry over some enslaving witch?
Look, I may look like a stubborn jerk now, but the whole mind control thing just drives me mad. This must not be.
No, Dusk will be angry, and when she gets balefired too because she goes to defend her friend, THEN SP will be pissed.
And Atik never phrases it as 'your character will do this,' he does, 'your character SHOULD do this'. There is a chance to resist.
Not from the meta-game point, light. As long as a spell doesn't cripple or murder my character, I can live with that.
It's the moral and ethic grounds of it. Enslaving people and forcing them to your bidding is WRONG. Turning them against their friends and making them hurt each other is WRONG. People who do such a thing because they want to please themselves must not be.
Post by
Atik
Silvia's entire idea also spiral'd horribly out of control for a number of reasons... I could list them if you want...
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355559
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Post by
Behelich
Well Al
is
a hypocrite when it comes to Hyper, won't argue. And a violent, obsessive possessive one, may I add.
And, just in case you are surprised why cannot we go over this, remember Wheel of Time and Seanchan. The whole enslavement is depicted there frighteningly well, showing how mages are reduces into blabbering toys of their leash-holders,
enjoying
their enslavement - that is how much they are broken. Once someone starts devising mind-controlling contraptions, it all comes crashing down from there.
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Post by
oneforthemoney
Well Hyper's freaking out is understandable considering Rephyx, but few people were there for the whole schtick aside from Alejandro thanks to the bond and Hyper (Joxans to a lesser extent near the end). So Alejandro's anger is somewhat justified, lectures not as much.
Post by
Atik
Yeah, but only direst enslavement from the Dominatrix even comes CLOSE to that. And even then, it can still be fought against. The only reason Logan was so easily enslaved is because he subconsciously wanted to be, as long as Hyper and later Dusk were the leash holders.
Dusk and Silvia themselves have stuck almost solely to seduction spells.
Post by
Behelich
Look, I'm really not enjoying behaving like a jerk over a single sub-plot, which is why I'll just shut up now. Sorry. I just don't think I can change my mind about the enslavement, so I'll go and try to change the way I talk about it.
Post by
oneforthemoney
Yeah, but only direst enslavement from the Dominatrix even comes CLOSE to that. And even then, it can still be fought against. The only reason Logan was so easily enslaved is because he subconsciously wanted to be, as long as Hyper and later Dusk were the leash holders.
Dusk and Silvia themselves have stuck almost solely to seduction spells.
Natch. But I mean more a memory of trauma causing the effect, not necessarily the weapon onto itself. Like a flinch, just more.
Post by
Atik
Yeah, the thing with how I do enslavement, is that you can't be enslaved if you can fight it, and subconsciously don't want to obey the person. (Like Al, since he was technically being enslaved by Hyper.)
Anything else is limited to Demons, Elementals, and things like that.
Post by
oneforthemoney
It's not necessarily the enslavement, but more the idea of the chain causing it and coupled with the fact it does enslave even slightly it would bring up an aversion.
Post by
Atik
I;m talking about Ald's seeming problem with characters using the power, rather than the reactions to it.
My subplot idea failed horribly... Which is partially why this is happening at all.
Post by
oneforthemoney
I wouldn't say so, quite the contrary. It reopened an old wound in a very acute way and actually threw in some believable drama and counter opinions to the group dynamic. In the end we have to wait for Hyper to make the decision, but I like the whole shoulder angel thing going on.
That it draws attention from Vlad and his condition is just entirely coincidental.
Post by
Atik
Speaking of Vlad...
Hyper's whole thing with him? Pretty much why I refuse to let Silvia die here...
Post by
Behelich
Alright, I'm gone until Sunday, 7am PST. Please don't do anything exciting without me.
Post by
Atik
Just took a look at the new talent trees....
I think I'm gonna be quitting WoW soon.
Post by
Krutos
Just took a look at the new talent trees....
I think I'm gonna be quitting WoW soon.
Aye.
I don't know if they are trying to cut back on all the skills one needs to handle or just simplyfy the hell out of the game
Post by
Atik
They say they want to give us more customization, then take away our choices.
I want to play DW unholy on my DK. Why can't I choose that?
I want to be a Fury tank on my warrior, why can't I choose this?
I want to tank on my shaman, why can't I choose this?
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