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Makorr: Intersection (Q&A)
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Post by
Adamsm
You know, I could see the Light missing the Nobodies, but not Nature: They exist after all, and unlike the Heartless, don't bring about nothingness.
Post by
Atik
I want to do something similiar for 2012...
Cockroach Jesus was my favorite part... and then later where he thought he was back there...
Jordon: Woke up in a car... OH @#$% COCKROACH JES- Wait... no... that's just Driver...
But the Nobodies are basically undead, aren't they?
Post by
Adamsm
No, the Nobodies are just mortals with powers.
Post by
Monday
But they have no heart, no essence.
Post by
Adamsm
They are still alive though; otherwise Roxas, Axel and the others couldn't be the way they are. The only ones who aren't really alive are the Replicas.
Post by
Monday
Undead are alive. Just sayin'.
Post by
Atik
No, the Nobodies are just mortals with powers.
But they are missing their heart. Which, as I see it, is both the organ and the essence of emotions.
To me? They seem like DKs...
And yeah, a missing organ would stick out to anyone who sees nature...
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Post by
Monday
Anyways, I'm off to bed. Night everyone.
Post by
Atik
Its not an organ obviously, they'd all be dead. It's their essence, it's more of the light spectrum of healers.
Who is to say they aren't?
Night Fund
Don'tGoDownTheRabbitHoles...
Post by
Adamsm
I think when they say that, that don't mean it literally; they mean it's hard for them to feel genuine emotions: Pretty much everything we see from everyone but Roxas is them 'pretending' to feel; they want 'hearts' to fill that emptiness that is the lack of emotions.
Roxas is only different because of what happened to him; Sora got his Heart back too fast, so the Nobody got some actual emotions in the mix...and it didn't help that Namine mixed things up too.
The Lesser Nobodies are living creatures as well, that work just for Organization.
Even the Heartless are alive in their own ways, as are the Unversed.
Its not an organ obviously, they'd all be dead. It's their essence, it's more of the light spectrum of healers.
Who is to say they aren't?
Um....the games themselves?
Post by
Atik
Heartless I consider to be the raw form of life, but twisted and malformed. Unversed are pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. They are raw emotions, but we don't know enough about how they are created. We only see two characters become Unversed... Ventus and the Magic Mirror.
I'm thinking that they do mean it literally. The heartless have nothing physical left besides their heart, which is buried in darkness. The nobodies are undead, walking corpses, lacking a heart. The unversed are... well... raw emotions given physical form? idk...
When did the games say nobodies were alive? They are described as "creatures that shouldn't be"
You know, zombies...
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Post by
Atik
Everyone has been writing them like they have been totally alive...
I wasn't. I wrote Nagol as an undead. They simply aren't the conventional warcraft-undead.
Also, Undead, Hyper, and myself all mentioned physical hearts when writing our heartless
Post by
Adamsm
When did the games say nobodies were alive? They are described as "creatures that shouldn't be"
You know, zombies...
Or creatures without emotions? Since they are formed when other people are 'killed'; the fact that killing a person's Heartless and Nobody reforms the original, says they aren't dead either.
And Vanitas causes the Unversed to form from within him; Xehanort says that as well. Emblem Heartless are a created creature, forged from the true Heartless to try to control the swarm. And I've never seen it said that the Nobodies are dead either; I haven't been treating Xadmas as an undead type either, merely something that just feels specific emotions.
And as Alu kept saying, your Nobodies aren't 'the game' one anyways.
Edit: Hell, there's an easy way to categorize them(and this is from the games)
True Heartless: Raw emotions able to feed off any.
Unversed: Negative emotions, such as greed, rage, sorrow, jealousy, hatred.
Nobodies: Pure intellect, but they want to feel the emotions.
Post by
Atik
Yen Sid calls them creatures that shouldn't exsist, and a couple others mention that as well.
And I don't see how the reform proves anything. You take a walking corpse, shove the soul back in, and BAM living person again.
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Atik
Ah, no, look at the undead in WoW.
Which aren't the same undead.
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Post by
Atik
The whole point of this was just saying that nature magics would notice nobodies, making Logan aware that he isn't Zeke.
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