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Post by
Atik
I have no proof?
The way I have always seen it, is that we are supposed to have been made in 'god's image' correct?
Ask youself then, why are humans so dark, evil, selfish, and on a basic level; disgusting? We are living waste producers, we destroy nearly everything we touch. Even when we attempt to help, like stopping forest fires, we only destroy things by causing the forest to become over-populated and too dense with trees.
If 'god' was so evil, selfish, and disgusting, why ould he create anything like us to begin with? How would we be so fit for survival? Wouldn't we have to fight everything and struggle to survive?
It simply makes no sense...
Post by
Monday
God's image = human body, not the mind.
Post by
Adamsm
Again though Atik, knowing that Hyper feels strongly about religion, why did you feel the need to be an arse hole and post something that insults not just her, but everything she believes in? Unless you wanted to give her a reason to hate you or something.
Post by
oneforthemoney
If 'god' was so evil, selfish, and disgusting, why ould he create anything like us to begin with? How would we be so fit for survival? Wouldn't we have to fight everything and struggle to survive?
It simply makes no sense...
Sh!ts and giggles.
Seriously though, such matters have been discussed to death by greater minds than we. That we will get anywhere on a Warcraft forum with such a debate has slim to none chances.
Post by
Atik
Again though Atik,
knowing that Hyper feels strongly about religion
, why did you feel the need to be an arse hole and post something that insults not just her, but everything she believes in? Unless you wanted to give her a reason to hate you or something.
I actually did not know that.
And as I've said; I'm simply one of those people that cannot ignore it. If I just leave something like that alone, it bugs me until I do something about it.
I origonally wasn't going to respond to the 'threat' here... but it wouldn't stop bugging me until I did.
Post by
Monday
In the end, Atik, you have no empirical proof. You have proof that works for you, and that's just fine. Grats on having made a decision (and that wasn't meant to be sarcastic). But, also, there's no need to be an ass and force your opinions on others, especially when they haven't done anything to you.
E: Then, Atik, you are blind. She's mentioned it many, many times.
Post by
470415
This post was from a user who has deleted their account.
Post by
Atik
The serpant wasn't satan if you check the old testiment. It was just a random snake.
I've actually done a lot of thinking about the garden of Eden myth;
I believe that, taking that into life, 'god' would have been trying to make us stupid so we could be something like his pet project. The snake wanted to help us escape our prison and had us eat the fruit of knowledge.
And I have never seen her mention it.
Post by
Monday
The serpant wasn't satan if you check the old testiment. It was just a random snake.
I've actually done a lot of thinking about the garden of Eden myth;
I believe that, taking that into life, 'god' would have been trying to make us stupid so we could be something like his pet project. The snake wanted to help us escape our prison and had us eat the fruit of knowledge.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Post by
Atik
The ORIGONAL garden of Eden myth never made mention of the snake being satan.
Satan was never even evil in the origonal version of christianity/judiesm. It wasn't even a name; it was a position one of the angels could hold. Basically a 'lawyer' of heaven. There was no mention of Lucifer or anything like that.
Post by
Monday
...
You have no idea of what you're talking about. Please, stop spouting stuff that makes you look more stupid with every word you say.
Post by
Atik
I actually have a good idea of what I am talking about.
I have spent a good amount of time researching the history and evolution of christianity in order to better argue my points. I have watched nearly every program aired on History channel about the subject, read the currently accepted form of the bible, and done signifegent research online.
Post by
oneforthemoney
... Atik, please do stop. Surely you realize that the fact of the matter is that all you can do in the end, just like the people arguing with you, is to express your opinion. You have done so, however you are highly unlikely to actually manage and change someones mind in this matter.
You have expressed your personal opinion, others have theirs. Is there, and I say this to everyone involved in this debacle, really a reason to carry on?
Post by
Adamsm
Heh, so, rather then admit you've made a large mistake and accept that, you feel like you need to dig yourself deeper into a hole? Seriously, just apologize to Hyper for being an arse, and if you feel the need to keep on fighting for your view, use one of the off topic religion discussion threads.
Post by
Atik
Just one last thing:
I would like to apologied to Hyper for upsetting her. I, truthfully, had no idea she felt strogly about religion. While I understood my comment could upset her, that was not my intent.
I would also like to apologize for derailing us into this. I will attempt to control myself in the future.
(and no, I hadn't seen Adams post until this was posted. There is no hole I dig myself into during these. I have spent the last few years of my life doing my research and preparing a fortress of information. I have no faith, I simply cannot rely on belief alone.)
Post by
Monday
Just remember that others feel just as strongly as you do, and are just as unlikely to back down. If you argue with the assumption that you are correct and the others are ignorant, especially on something you can't prove, is a recipe for disaster.
Post by
jebby
Right then now that this train's back on track, let's all hug and make up.
Post by
Mojoworkn
Loche
It's
Locke
. You know, like John Locke?
And for the record, Hell, Money, Light and I get to join a secret club together.
Won't be posting until late tonight Funden. Sorry about that.
Post by
Monday
No problem. Running regs with an RL friend anyways.
Post by
Atik
Trying to work on Halocraft...
In a bit of a funk now... I feel really bad for upsetting Hyper...
I did win a game on SC2 earlier.
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