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Post by
Hyperspacerebel
...but using 'could care less'... /sigh
You never read my 500 word defense of that phrase, did you? :P
Irregardless their are less letters, that begs the question why everyone in the world aren't use to the much more shorter version by now.
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Post by
Squishalot
Might've been in the RB then.
The difference between "I should be so lucky" and your use of "I could care less" is that each of those are statements intended to sit by themselves, or in context with the rest of the sarcastic statement (e.g. "I should be so lucky as to win the lottery").
In a series of serious statements, a single sarcastic statement is somewhat out of context, especially online, without auditory cues. It's reasonable to assume that the whole paragraph was written literally, given the context.
And I've never heard 'tell me about it' used in a sarcastic manner that actually meant 'I don't want to hear about it'.
Post by
Hyperspacerebel
You're making a logical argument about language development. It doesn't work that way.
And the sarcasm is implicit in the phrase. I'm not being sarcastic by using it, the phrase's meaning is just the opposite if what you'd expect etymologically.
And I've never heard 'tell me about it' used in a sarcastic manner that actually meant 'I don't want to hear about it'.
"Wow the <insert sports team> sucked today."
"Tell me about it." (or, "Yeah, I know exactly what you mean")
It's American (as are most Yiddish influenced phrases), as is 'could care less' for the most part.
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148723
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Squishalot
"I know exactly what you mean" =/= the opposite of "Tell me about it."
In fact, such a phrase actually does often intend to lead to further discussion about it, making the statement inherently not sarcastic.
Anyway, we're hopelessly off topic now, so let's move on.
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MyTie
You're making a logical argument about language development. It doesn't work that way.
And the sarcasm is implicit in the phrase. I'm not being sarcastic by using it, the phrase's meaning is just the opposite if what you'd expect etymologically.
And I've never heard 'tell me about it' used in a sarcastic manner that actually meant 'I don't want to hear about it'.
"Wow the <insert sports team> sucked today."
"Tell me about it." (or, "Yeah, I know exactly what you mean")
It's American (as are most Yiddish influenced phrases), as is 'could care less' for the most part.
"I could care less" didn't develop from anywhere. It isn't an influenced phrase from any culture. You used "I couldn't care less" incorrectly, and instead of just admitting you were wrong, you came up with this elaborate Yiddish language development argument in an attempt to cover up your mistake. It's not working.
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Squishalot
How do you know, sir? Once again, I need to verify this, but I'm almost 100% sure that it is Yiddish based. I come from a Jewish background, and I know I've seen it somewhere before. Just give me some time to pull it out of my brain/someone else's brain. He (and I) might be wrong, but it's inaccurate of you to say, "Since you cannot prove this to be true, you are wrong, even though I presented zero evidence to the contrary." Lack of proof against doesn't make it true; lack of proof for doesn't make it false. I'd be interested to see if you can find any solid evidence to support what you stated above.
To be honest, the 'Yiddish' justification for 'could care less' sounds just as reliable as the kid on the radio who described for the radio host the etymology of 'pwned' as 'purely owned'.
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Post by
Badaccus
I
think
i missed most of the show but anyway.
/popcorn
OT: What's the legal age for serving alcohol in clubs and bars in the states? 21 as well?
Here in Sweden clubs and bars are legal at 18, but you have to be 20 to buy it in the store. (And a company called "Systembolaget" are the only one that are allowed to sell liquor in Sweden, how stupid is that? State Monopoly FTL)
Post by
mindthegap5
18!
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120504
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MyTie
"I could care less" didn't develop from anywhere. It isn't an influenced phrase from any culture. You used "I couldn't care less" incorrectly, and instead of just admitting you were wrong, you came up with this elaborate Yiddish language development argument in an attempt to cover up your mistake. It's not working.
How do you know, sir? Once again, I need to verify this, but I'm almost 100% sure that it is Yiddish based. I come from a Jewish background, and I know I've seen it somewhere before. Just give me some time to pull it out of my brain/someone else's brain. He (and I) might be wrong, but it's inaccurate of you to say, "Since you cannot prove this to be true, you are wrong, even though I presented zero evidence to the contrary." Lack of proof against doesn't make it true; lack of proof for doesn't make it false. I'd be interested to see if you can find any solid evidence to support what you stated above.
Ok, I did a little research. Apparently it isn't Yiddish, but sound like it could have been. It was first recorded about 11 years after it's counterpart "I couldn't care less", and THAT was first recorded in the 1950s. Harper's usage dictionary called "I could care less" "an ignorant debasement of the language" in the 70s. It looks like people have been using it ever since, and it has been widely annoying people. Some attribute it to sarcasm, some to ignorance. In the end I think that some people use "I could care less" because they don't have enough logic to think their way out of a hat, and some use it because they think they are bringing a clever inflection. Since HSR posted this on the internet, I have no idea what his tone inflection was.
In the end, it doesn't matter.
Post by
Badaccus
National Minium Drinking Age Act of 1984
So basically if someone's parents (in certain states) buys 2 cases of Russian vodka (40%+) a 15 year old is allowed to drink in his own home in company of his parents? Wow thats f*cked up.
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conas
National Minium Drinking Age Act of 1984
So basically if someone's parents (in certain states) buys 2 cases of Russian vodka (40%+) a 15 year old is allowed to drink in his own home in company of his parents? Wow thats f*cked up.
Why is it f*cked up?
Parents should be the ones that decide what a minor under their care should/should not do.
On topic: 16 to buy, whatever age to drink as your parents allow it.
And 16 is the best age to get wasted TBH, since you still can't drive at that age here (18 for that)
Post by
Badaccus
Why is it f*cked up?
Parents should be the ones that decide what a minor under their care should/should not do.
Just my opinion. If i can keep my daughter's from drinking until they move out of my house i have succeeded.
Fat chance? Not really. But still, I'll try.
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