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Gone
He's on the box. He will be the end-game boss.
starting from WOTLK onwards, each expact has 1 major badguy who is not to be featured in the initial release, and who is built to be the biggest boss in the game on the final patch till the next expantion rolls out.
from wotlk on? since caty isnt done thats only 1 expansion your basing this on.
anyway seems like everybody thinks deathwing will be the end game boss, i still think im right and its not gonna be him, we'll just have to wait and see for ourselvs
Post by
whiplash308
Illidan was on the box of BC?
Post by
Gone
Illidan was on the box of BC?
i thought he was but maby not, idk its been a while i dont rly remember, it might have actualy been kael, but in any case it wasnt KJ so my point stands.
Post by
Adamsm
Final boss of Vanilla: Kel'Thuzad
Final boss of Burning Crusade: Kil'Jaeden(who Illidan was scared $%^&less of), was always intended to be the finale.
Final boss of Wrath: Lich King...and they drilled it into us in every #$%^ing zone.....
Final boss of Cata: Will be Deathwing, seeing as all of the raids/dungeons we are 'cleaning out' have either his lieutenants or creatures that took over them during the uprising and destruction of the planet.
tl/dr: DWing will be the last fight, but we'll end up fighting another Old God at some point.
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Gone
im just sayin, it seems like blizz is tryin to change things up a lot this expansion, i think they might throw us a curveball, maby im wrong, ill just have to wait and see
Post by
Pwntiff
Now you're just trying to cover yourself. Your original post basically boiled down to "Deathwing isn't as established as Arthas was."
Deathwing will almost certainly be the end boss. The only other possibility would be an Old God.
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Pwntiff
Nah, as much lore as she already has as a villain, she deserves more than a tacked on raid.
Post by
Wilicil
@OP, I would say yes, I expect one old god or another, but deathwing I really think will be last boss, altho this will mean we will have killed 2 of the 5 dragon aspects, altho first was crazy, and deathwings not really following what aspect he was given(he was orginaly the earthwarden, before becoming Mr lava steelskin deathface).
tad of topic: I sure hope blizz dosnot expect us to kill a third, thats just crazy, the rest are all sane!
Ysera and the Emerald Nightmare, perhaps? Was also hinted at in a quest in Dragonblight, I think, that Nozdormu is the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight.
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Pwntiff
Neltharion - Old Gods drove him insane.
Malygos - Went insane after his flight was all but eradicated.
Nozdormu - Nothing more than a possibility, but there is a connection between the Bronze and the Infinite.
Ysera - Emerald Nightmare is mostly dealt with. She was even held in the Dream by the Nightmare. Since she's spearheading the revival of the Ancients, I'm going to say she's perfectly stable.
Alexstrasza - If Grim Batol and the Dragonmaw Clan didn't turn her against the mortals, I'm not sure what would.
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Gone
Now you're just trying to cover yourself. Your original post basically boiled down to "Deathwing isn't as established as Arthas was."
Deathwing will almost certainly be the end boss. The only other possibility would be an Old God.
im not trying to cover myself i stand by what i said, as far as IN GAME lore gos, deathwing is nowhere near as established as arthas, when the first cataclysm trailers were relsed everybody who hadnt read the books or been an old school warcraft fan pretty much went "who the *!@# is that" and even as far as the old games go, i dont remember much of WC2 but im pretty sure most people wrote deathwing off as dead, where as arthas story was left open at the end. i relise there is a very large expanded universe, but a lot of people dont know much lore beyond the games, and as far as the original warcraft games yes i think arthas got more treatment as a characture than deathwing did, and in world of warcraft, even pre wotlk, he CERTINLY did
Post by
Pwntiff
That's because WoW was originally a direct continuation of WC3, of which Arthas was the current and latest big bad guy. Deathwing was in Deepholm nursing his wounds after WC2. That's why a lot the Cataclysm info released
before the trailer
was re-emphasizing Deathwing's backstory.
Of course the current villain-at-large gets more face time than the villain gone into hiding.
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Gone
ok lemmi ask you a question, did it even hint that deathwing was still alive at the end of WC2? i seem to recall him being considered officialy dead, where as, like i said, arthas his story was left WIDE open, ad its been built on since wow launched. every major baddie thats appeared in wow, ragnaros, LK, Cthune, KJ, illidan, ect. can be traced back to either the burning legion or the old gods, and as the old gods have been underplayed as #$%^ thus far, i think one of them might be the driving force behind deathwing and the whole cataclysm thing, once again maby im wrong, but its what i think
Post by
Pwntiff
All I can dig up is this:
At the behest of Krasus, the three remaining free aspects, Malygos, Ysera and Nozdormu, grudgingly decided to come out of their lairs and attack Deathwing. However, due to the power they had given to the Demon Soul, they were no match for the black leviathan. But Rhonin was able to steal the Demon Soul from Nekros, freeing Alexstrasza in the process. Furthermore, he discovered its weakness and destroyed it, releasing all the powers of the dragons who had given their power ten thousand years earlier. Deathwing was sent retreating with four very angry, fully-empowered Dragon Aspects on his heels, though he managed to elude them in the end. Lord Prestor vanished when Deathwing was forced to go into hiding, and Deathwing's influence over the nobles disappeared along with him
http://www.wowpedia.org/Deathwing#Lord_Prestor_and_the_battle_of_Grim_Batol
Again, of course the Old Gods have been downplayed. First, Blizzard has intentionally left Old Gods in the dark. Second, Arthas was the villain-at-large. He was still an active threat, hence the reason Kel'Thuzard and the Scourge were the primary antagonists of Vanilla. TBC was focused on Outland since the re-opening of the Dark Portal. WotLK is obvious.
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Gone
well idk, like i said i dont remember much of WC2, i was a kid back then, didnt even know what i was doing with most video games lol, i think untill the end game raid comes out we may just have to agree to disagree, heres a thought about wow villains though, for the next expansion why dont they try comming out with SOMETHING NEW rather than just recycling all the old villians >.<
Post by
Pwntiff
Not when there are still active baddies plotting. The Legion is the source of the Scourge, and have been a potential enemy (lore-wise) for thousands of years. Arthas was, again, an active threat at the end of WC3, which set the foundation for WoW. The Legion reopening the Portal established TBC, and the Scourge renewing their assaults established WotLK. Deathwing's reemergence set the stage for Cataclysm.
Azshara could launch an assault. One of the unknown Old Gods could do something tricky. The Emerald Nightmare could break free and need to be dealt with. There are plenty of antagonists that just aren't dead and gone. Why bring new players when you don't need to?
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Gone
Not when there are still active baddies plotting. The Legion is the source of the Scourge, and have been a potential enemy (lore-wise) for thousands of years. Arthas was, again, an active threat at the end of WC3, which set the foundation for WoW. The Legion reopening the Portal established TBC, and the Scourge renewing their assaults established WotLK. Deathwing's reemergence set the stage for Cataclysm.
Azshara could launch an assault. One of the unknown Old Gods could do something tricky. The Emerald Nightmare could break free and need to be dealt with. There are plenty of antagonists that just aren't dead and gone. Why bring new players when you don't need to?
well like i said earlier, every baddie has been linked to either the burning legion, or the old gods (im counting LK+scourge in with the legion) and odds are the expansions are all going to deal with those just like the last ones have, but what im saying is bring some new faces into the mix, like if we see the legion again dont have KJ as the boss, make it somone new, i mean sargeras can have more than one lieutenant cant he? the cataclysm changing the world is the perfect opritunity for blizz to change things up and bring some new faces/lore into the mix
Post by
Adamsm
Again, the only reason Arthas is recent is because his game was only a few years ago in real time. Lore wise, Deathwing has been the greater threat, responsible for more atrocities then the Lich King: turned on his fellow Aspects during War of the Ancients, wiped out the Blue Flight(a portion was saved due to time line manipulation), drove Malygos insane, has been manipulating the mortals for decades, helped the Orcs capture Alexstraza, helped Ner'zhul open the Portal that ripped apart Draenor, is responsible for the Netherwing flight, is responsible for the Twilight flight, and has just over all been an enemy of the mortal races of Azeroth for more then 10 thousand years.
You can say 'Oh, no one knows him' but if you haven't had played WC3 before playing Wrath, you would have no clue who Arthas/the Lich King was either. Seriously, get over it.
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