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Post by
MrSCH
Well.
It is with a heavy heart that I do this.
I was wrong.
There are still
moments
when you can get one shot, which is pure BS, but I was wrong about the Rogues. It has been toned down, as you say. Also seems it isn't 10-19 any more, so I must have missed something.
So perhaps it is simply that a Druid is not for me? Despite my ultra-squishiness at low level I did ok for myself. Rogues were difficult but not impossible, Hunters easy... tbh, Shamans were the most troublesome heh. (edit - on the mage i mean.)
Post by
Azazel
There are still
moments
when you can get one shot
Are you blind or something? 'Cause I see ~200 and ~150 damage. That would make it a 2-shot.
Post by
MrSCH
There are still
moments
when you can get one shot
Are you blind or something? 'Cause I see ~200 and ~150 damage. That would make it a 2-shot.
As the melee and the BT hit at the exact same moment I class it as one shot. Hit at the same time, give you the exact same reaction time as if it was one ability.... nit picking my friend.
Are you blind or something? Why the need to be so hostile and horrible? I do not understand some people, some times. And people wonder why I reacted as I did a few pages back...
Post by
105944
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Post by
Synectics
It's one button press. I'd call it one-shot. Two-shot implies that you could have avoided the second ability.
Regardless, QQ harder. Lower levels have never been balanced. It sucks, and I feel bad for a new player who has to learn this the hard way and was looking forward to PvP while leveling, but it's just the nature of an MMO where the focus is on end-game.
When you don't get all of your class's most important abilities until a later level, and some classes get theirs lower than that, it feels horribly unbalanced. In a way, yes, it is. But it's all done with end-game in mind. If you take it for what it is, WoW is a extremely well-designed carrot-on-a-stick for a leveling player.
Post by
Azazel
There are still
moments
when you can get one shot
Are you blind or something? 'Cause I see ~200 and ~150 damage. That would make it a 2-shot.
As the melee and the BT hit at the exact same moment I class it as one shot. Hit at the same time, give you the exact same reaction time as if it was one ability.... nit picking my friend.
Oneshot =/=
Two
shots at the exact same time.
Are you blind or something? Why the need to be so hostile and horrible? I do not understand some people, some times. And people wonder why I reacted as I did a few pages back...
I wasn't meant offensively. It was just a question.
Post by
Monjaru
Oneshot =/=
Two
shots at the exact same time.
He didn't say it was technically the same thing; he said he classes them as the same because even with the best reaction time humanly (or robotically, for that matter) possible, as long as both hits land (aren't dodged, blocked, parried, etc), you will die in the same amount of time as if both blows were one shot.
As he said, you're nitpicking. It doesn't help to further your argument... Well, it wouldn't if you actually
had
an argument, anyway.
I wasn't meant offensively. It was just a question.
I lol'd.
Post by
Azazel
Oneshot =/=
Two
shots at the exact same time.
He didn't say it was technically the same thing; he said he classes them as the same because even with the best reaction time humanly (or robotically, for that matter) possible, as long as both hits land (aren't dodged, blocked, parried, etc), you will die in the same amount of time as if both blows were one shot.
As he said, you're nitpicking. It doesn't help to further your argument... Well, it wouldn't if you actually
had
an argument, anyway.
Two and one still isn't the same thing. Sure, you can get hit by 2 things at once that you have no way of avoiding, but that doesn't make it 1 shot.
Post by
Monjaru
Two and one still isn't the same thing. Sure, you can get hit by 2 things at once that you have no way of avoiding, but that doesn't make it 1 shot.
/facepalm
Did you read what I said? At all?
He
didn't say it was technically the same thing
; he said he classes them as the same because even with the best reaction time humanly (or robotically, for that matter) possible, as long as both hits land (aren't dodged, blocked, parried, etc), you will die in the same amount of time as if both blows were one shot.
As he said,
you're nitpicking
. It doesn't help to further your argument... Well, it wouldn't if you actually
had
an argument, anyway.
Please, actually read it this time. I even bolded the most important points.
Post by
Azazel
Two and one still isn't the same thing. Sure, you can get hit by 2 things at once that you have no way of avoiding, but that doesn't make it 1 shot.
/facepalm
Did you read what I said? At all?
He
didn't say it was technically the same thing
; he said he classes them as the same because even with the best reaction time humanly (or robotically, for that matter) possible, as long as both hits land (aren't dodged, blocked, parried, etc), you will die in the same amount of time as if both blows were one shot.
As he said,
you're nitpicking
. It doesn't help to further your argument... Well, it wouldn't if you actually
had
an argument, anyway.
Please, actually read it this time. I even bolded the most important points.
Just sayin' that 1 =/= 2. And yes, I'm nitpicking.
Post by
Monjaru
Just sayin' that 1 =/= 2.
No one here said that 1 = 2, so you saying so is irrelevant.
And yes, I'm nitpicking.
It doesn't help to further your argument... Well, it wouldn't if you actually
had
an argument, anyway.
Post by
Synectics
Just sayin' that 1 =/= 2. And yes, I'm nitpicking.
Sure, but one button press =/= two "shots," I believe is what we're trying to get across. That white swing is automatic. Just like I'd say I "two-shot" someone with Ambush and Eviscerate, even though I would have gotten two white melee swings off in that time, and perhaps even a poison application.
It may show 5 or 6 attacks landing in the combat log. But I'd still say I "two-shot" them because I pressed two buttons to win.
Oh, semantics.
Post by
Monjaru
I think I just broke my laptop 'cause I'm so angry. I wish I could learn to be less mad, like you.
Post by
MrSCH
Goshad, he was level 13 at the time. That's two levels; I sure as hell don't expect to be 1/2 shot, whatever you want to call it, by a player who is still yellow to me. Let's call it global'd, that's the time-span.
(Oh, and level 16s and level 11s can't be in the same BG any more. x0 - x4, x5 - x9.)
Post by
160546
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Post by
MrSCH
Why don't most of you take advice from Monjaru's sig, become monks, and let this thread die.
It's interesting to me. Those with common sense agree with my fundamental point, pointing out that I didn't go about it in the best way. Some are so blinded by their desire to point out that low level PvP isn't balanced that they justify instantaneous death by claiming 'I'm terrible'. And some just seem to be so damn offended by the fact that I have an opinion that they are just all-round hostile.
Interesting....
Post by
atomicwolf22
Why don't most of you take advice from Monjaru's sig, become monks, and let this thread die.
It's interesting to me. Those with common sense agree with my fundamental point, pointing out that I didn't go about it in the best way. Some are so blinded by their desire to point out that low level PvP isn't balanced that they justify instantaneous death by claiming 'I'm terrible'. And some just seem to be so damn offended by the fact that I have an opinion that they are just all-round hostile.
Interesting....
You were terrible you were playing a range class and not kiting melee. Thats a stable for pvp life for a range toon of any spec. Then you pointed out that rogues were so over powered that is was not fair.
Then all the qq more and l2p started.
Post by
MrSCH
Why don't most of you take advice from Monjaru's sig, become monks, and let this thread die.
It's interesting to me. Those with common sense agree with my fundamental point, pointing out that I didn't go about it in the best way. Some are so blinded by their desire to point out that low level PvP isn't balanced that they justify instantaneous death by claiming 'I'm terrible'. And some just seem to be so damn offended by the fact that I have an opinion that they are just all-round hostile.
Interesting....
You were terrible you were playing a range class and not kiting melee. Thats a stable for pvp life for a range toon of any spec. Then you pointed out that rogues were so over powered that is was not fair.
Then all the qq more and l2p started.
Hmm? No, my problem was getting oneshot BEFORE I had a chance to kite. I.e dead with SS > ambush > Evisc. Hunters killing me. Warriors killing me inside of one hamstring. Paladins HoJ and killing me.
My problem was, and people are starting to piss me off because you're overlooking it entirely, that I was dead before any practical application of PvP skill could kick in.
God, it isn't ^&*!ing difficult.
Post by
MrSCH
Why don't most of you take advice from Monjaru's sig, become monks, and let this thread die.
It's interesting to me. Those with common sense agree with my fundamental point, pointing out that I didn't go about it in the best way. Some are so blinded by their desire to point out that low level PvP isn't balanced that they justify instantaneous death by claiming 'I'm terrible'. And some just seem to be so damn offended by the fact that I have an opinion that they are just all-round hostile.
Interesting....
You were terrible you were playing a range class and not kiting melee. Thats a stable for pvp life for a range toon of any spec. Then you pointed out that rogues were so over powered that is was not fair.
Then all the qq more and l2p started.
Hmm? No, my problem was getting oneshot BEFORE I had a chance to kite. I.e dead with SS > ambush > Evisc. Hunters killing me. Warriors killing me inside of one hamstring. Paladins HoJ and killing me.
My problem was, and people are starting to piss me off because you're overlooking it entirely, that I was dead before any practical application of PvP skill could kick in.
God, it isn't ^&*!ing difficult.
My problem was
was
Before it starts again.
Post by
Synectics
My only annoyance is that you keep double-posting. Calm down, it isn't a chat room. Just edit stuff in; we'll get to you in an hour or two. :P
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