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Aadramelekh
Also, you tested those numbers post-4.0.3a on lvl 80 dummies? I can't find those, all I see is lvl 85 dummies and raid dummies (which I mangle for less than 100 :-o ) ... where did you find those lvl 80 dummies? :-/
I tested the numbers LAST NIGHT. Yes, in Darnassus there are all kinds of dummies. Lvl 70, lvl 80 and boss 'lvl 88' dummies (which I can't hit for sh*t :)))
Glad to have you back Aadra >:D
Hee hee, I'm glad to be back. And if I get in the mood and purchase Cataclysm (not sure yet), then I'll make a freakin druid on Lightbringer! I mean how 1337 would it be to have some 5 or even 10 man group made up mostly from druids around here? We'd show these n00bcakes how this game is played!
/rawr
Post by
Thror
You have to admit, Aadra, that the new Stormwind is #$%^ing amazing though. <3
Post by
LookOut
Hee hee, I'm glad to be back. And if I get in the mood and purchase Cataclysm (not sure yet), then I'll make a freakin druid on Lightbringer! I mean how 1337 would it be to have some 5 or even 10 man group made up mostly from druids around here? We'd show these n00bcakes how this game is played!
/rawr
Seriously, wtf is up with you guys invading my realm? xD
There's 1 tiny problem though: not everyone plays on EU realms, so not EVERY druid on this forum can join forces sadly :(
damn americans
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109094
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Post by
Aadramelekh
You have to admit, Aadra, that the new Stormwind is #$%^ing amazing though. <3
Bloody hell. But have you seen Orgrimmar? My jaw dropped. It has some infamous Mordor / Isengard (Lord of the Rings) feeling...
Post by
Thror
You have to admit, Aadra, that the new Stormwind is #$%^ing amazing though. <3
Bloody hell. But have you seen Orgrimmar? My jaw dropped. It has some infamous Mordor / Isengard (Lord of the Rings) feeling...
An orc architect saw Deathwings chin, and thought it would be smart to base an entire architectonic style on it. ORG is one huge buldozer shovel. Welllll.... i prefer the glorious citadels and epic towny feeling of SW.
Post by
LookOut
You have to admit, Aadra, that the new Stormwind is #$%^ing amazing though. <3
Bloody hell. But have you seen Orgrimmar? My jaw dropped. It has some infamous Mordor / Isengard (Lord of the Rings) feeling...
An orc architect saw Deathwings chin, and thought it would be smart to base an entire architectonic style on it. ORG is one huge buldozer shovel. Welllll.... i prefer the glorious citadels and epic towny feeling of SW.
I prefer the barbaric feel of the HORDE!
Suck it!
Towny feel = boring
Edit: all you nabsters that made a low level toon on my motherf***ing realm, go level it to lvl 15 and WAIT! I got a lvl 15 shaman, would be nice to do some grouped leveling :D Add Kossaak to your friends list and pst me at your leisure! (my shaman's name is Ramuj, but I'll refrain from playing on that toon until you guys contact me :p
Post by
Aadramelekh
You have to admit, Aadra, that the new Stormwind is #$%^ing amazing though. <3
Bloody hell. But have you seen Orgrimmar? My jaw dropped. It has some infamous Mordor / Isengard (Lord of the Rings) feeling...
An orc architect saw Deathwings chin, and thought it would be smart to base an entire architectonic style on it. ORG is one huge buldozer shovel. Welllll.... i prefer the glorious citadels and epic towny feeling of SW.
I prefer the barbaric feel of the HORDE!
Suck it!
For the horde!
So it seems that even if we get all on the same realm, we'll end up split in both camps and we'll greet each other with teech and claws on the battlefield. Or around dark corners, at night... hihihihihi >:)
PS: because
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is freakin bada*s!
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Post by
LookOut
So it seems that even if we get all on the same realm, we'll end up split in both camps and we'll greet each other with teech and claws on the battlefield. Or around dark corners, at night... hihihihihi >:)
Well, Thror's low lev toon is a troll druid (new FotM *cough*), my shammy is also a troll, no idea about parra's or yuna's low lev toons on lightbringer, but I'm hoping it's horde as well :p
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LookOut
You're entirely correct parra, cheers for moving the conversation over there :p
Back on topic:
Swipe hits like a wet nooddle, QQ.
/fixed
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109094
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Post by
Thror
It was pretty crazy when it did 16k damage in ICC. What kind of grades did the Blizzard developers had from Math anyway.
First our swipe crits for 1800 in ICC and is spammable.
They increase damage by 66%.
Now it crits for 16k in ICC.
They decrease damage by 20% and 17%
Now it hits for 700.
Uh.
How percents work halp
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299735
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Post by
Aadramelekh
Even if they buff Swipe damage to a decent value, I still wouldn't run random dungeons. 6 sec CD on it and on Thrash plus 99% of the players used to the AoE fests in WotLK means disaster.
I would run with guildmates, people that have a brain and know what organized warfare means. CC this and that mob, mark the other two, set the kill order and give let the tank brawl with them for 5-6 seconds before beginning focus fire DPS on said mobs. Chain CC / kite when needed, focus fire, one at a time. Conserve mana, watch out for the surroundings, properly manage the adds. This will be indeed much more fun than charge in and zerg down all the mobs in two Swipes time.
But I'll say it again: organized warfare is not possible with 99% of today's players that got used to mass burning sh*t down after they got WotLK welfare epic gear (starting with lvl 200-213).
Post by
Thror
TBH Aadra, when Swipe was doing 6k damage and had a 6 sec CD, it was totally okay. I managed to tank Pits of Saron while running backwards. The snap was really quite sufficient for heroics, and you could soldify your AoE with reasonable target switching and use of single target abilities. Even the Culling of Stratholme undead passage was totally okay. Oh and it was just bestial in ICC. 16k crits, im tellin ya. I was third in recount for trash groups, with 2 warlocks being on top. Everyone else? Deep down.
One of the worst things with Swipe now is that i cant even kill a larger amount of quest mobs at once within reasonable time. Seriously, killing a bunch of elites in friggin SW Stockades in bear form takes like 25 GCDs, while in cat form it takes two.
I would also like to know whats going on with the Maul glyph. The "second hit" is very far from 50%. More like 20.
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LookOut
I would run with guildmates, people that have a brain and know what organized warfare means. CC this and that mob, mark the other two, set the kill order and give let the tank brawl with them for 5-6 seconds before beginning focus fire DPS on said mobs. Chain CC / kite when needed, focus fire, one at a time. Conserve mana, watch out for the surroundings, properly manage the adds. This will be indeed much more fun than charge in and zerg down all the mobs in two Swipes time.
hurr durr :p I've never been in a raiding guild before at the start of a new expansion, so this'll probably be a nice change :D No players emoquitting a group when it goes bad, maybe even going on vent during the run ... damn, I'm getting excited already ^_^
(I also got introduced to the ICC 5mans with the guild, with vent and everything. Fun times ...)
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