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Blizzard is making an attempt to balance all specs so its a matter of taste unless you're in one of the top guilds that force you to run MM. Remember we are hunters, we hunt @#$%. We don't befriend @#$% and make it more powerful than we are, we kill &*!@. We also aren't soldiers with bows that follow formation, we're %^&*ing hunters, we hunt $%^&. Rugged people who are masters of the wild and know how to get around using traps, venom, and unique arrows that we created. Just my own personal lore view.
Exactly my point of view for choosing SV.
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For ANY Spec reforge your gear entirely into mastery.
Ok now I am sure you are someone with understanding problems, you are on a SV thread not a mm or bm, we all know if you go mm of bm you should go full mastery and like canidae said, he didnt say it for all the specs.
Now second part, if you were using your brain, actually, you would know that ferocity > cunning pets for dps, the debuff given by wind serpent is given by 2 other classes too soooo you are wrong... unless you cant find any of the other classes give the debuff in your raid. Anyway you would lose dps because your pet is not ferocity.
@canidae, if you can't do 25 mans due to computer issues than you have no reason to be using recount as it'll eat up any memory that you may have possibly had available.
Well, it was me and not canidae and if I have issues doing 25 man raids it's not because of my memory or cpu, it's because of my graphic card so recount has nothing to do with it.
Memory usage of recount is so low that it should not be a problem to anyone even if you have 1024mo or 512mo of ram.
Will prob start to do big raids once I get my new laptop that should be a g73jw or a MSI gt 760 so it will not be an issue in cata.
@ Zakkhar: lol, It's a good idea to use your traps when you are low on focus, pretty good. You exactly spend 20 focus for this (2 trap launchers) and lose 2 to 3s sending traps and explosive or immolation trap has lower dps compared to BA(lot lower). Yeah nice idea but you could have been more effective by sending 1 or 2 steady shots and BA. Eh, if you feel leet doing this it's fine, you get big numbers pop on your screen when you want to and big burst dmg and get the illusion it's increasing your overall dps by a lot. Oh wait are you talking about pve or pvp, no way you could use that on a boss fight!
Why use BA, it only does 7.5% of your dps for 35 focus every 24 or 30s and have good chances to get a LoL proc!
Oh wait I just realized something! If you use BA you can still use frost trap to get a free LoL proc! AMAZING! (sarcasms)
Maybe I should try to find a leet hunter macro on the forum so I can 1 button spam.
Ok in reality your macro is actually usefull Zakkhar, but only on trash. You should never use it on a boss fight. But since you have changed your spec to match your macro, there is no way you can be competitive with a mm of sv hunter with same gears on a boss fight.
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XxOmuraxX
Ok Zakkhar, just say you reforged to mastery only for mm spec and you are using sv for aoe only or for fun.
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The amount of facepalm in this thread is ridiculous.
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Yeah I think I am starting to troll this lol, I wont look back on forum so I wont be tempted anymore :P cya
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Hey lol Im still here :P, for those who are interested by stats weights and by trying some changes in their spec without paying a respec, Zeherah's hunter dps analyser on femaledwarf.com is updated for cata.
On dummy I'm doing 6700 to 7k dps selfbuff with cat, the spreadsheet said I should do 6900, so I guess it is very accurate.
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Regarding mastery for survival,
Frostheim claims
mastery is the worst stat and haste or crit is best
, and that's for level 85, when we actually got Cobra Shot (lack of CS certainly doesn't make mastery better). I reckon Frostheim to be a pretty clever hunter, shame he didn't elaborate a bit more, but I have no reasons to believe he's wrong.
As he said on the commentaries:
Frostheim
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Um…. your gear is going to be obsolete in 2 days. It will suddenly be leveling gear, and for leveling you probably want to reforge out of haste and into crit, and then mastery if you can’t do crit.
Mastery isn’t a bad stat by any means — it’s just not a top stat for most specs.
And again...
Frostheim
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Everything changes at level 85 : )
It’s very unlikely that you’ll ever have crit chances high enough to hit the careful aim soft cap (44.8% before raid buffs). Likewise your haste percentages will be lower — though you still shouldn’t be trying to stack haste — not a great stat for MM at all!
OK, he was talking about MM at the second quote, for SV haste should be the second best stat.
According to what I've seen arround at the hunter foruns, for SV: Crit > Haste > Hit > Mastery.
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