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Adamsm
Being ugly is also detrimental on things also... not quite sure what you are getting at.
That most 'real' jobs aren't as caught up on looks as those articles would paint the world. It's one thing to go 'your real life does not equal studies', but it's another to take studies from what sounds like a site designed to make the beautiful people be more beautiful.
From my own personal experiences, I've seen people shorter then me easily making more money at the jobs I've worked...of course, I'm over 6 feet, so a lot of people are shorter then me. Same with women; I've had homely women as my bosses, and the 'pretty' ones were in the lower money earning.
One study does not work for every single person on the planet. So, sorry your 'short' but short of getting that expensive and incredibly painful surgery where they break your legs and stretch them out, your stuck with it...or buy some platform shoes, and try to make them come back.
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Kibbles
imho on the 'weight' idea (NOT the short one!), success is a universal cause. Successful people want to eat well 95% of the time, and others-
-More Dedication
-Better Eating=Better Focus
-Poor People=Unsuccessful People=more Mc Donalds
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324987
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Adamsm
Are you seriously arguing that beautiful people or above average looking people are equally likely to be hired as ugly or below average people?Honesty, yes. If your not working in a modeling agency or in a porno, your looks aren't as important in the Real World as your skills. No offense, but if you think being pretty and tall means you'll coast through life, you've got a rough wake up call coming for you.
If you are I will even use an example of a business that is all about looks... Abercrombie. Being attractive is THE most important thing when you are getting hired. People that they consider attractive will be asked if they want to work there without having already filled out an application.Hm, a store that holds a high standard of impossible beauty, hiring attractive people...yeah....that's a shocker....why didn't you just make a porn star reference instead, would have been the same thing.
On topic - I am sure you have heard the desired look girls want... Tall, Dark, and Handsome. I guess you can pretend to live in a world where you don't think looks matter but you are kidding yourself.And I've seen a drop dead gorgeous woman who could have been a super model who choose a short little frumpy guy as her husband; why? Because he made her laugh, is a good guy, and cares deeply about her. Again, stereotypes are bad m'kay; and things you read in a magazine or off the net is not the whole truth, as it's different for every person what they are and are not attracted to.
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Adamsm
and things you read in a magazine or off the net is not the whole truth, as it's different for every person what they are and are not attracted to.
I know there is that old saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder but it seems like people want to pretend that generally certain characteristics are not more attractive. For all of us having such a "unique" sense of beauty we sure tend to easily and popularly judge someone as beautiful or not.Right; like how so much of the world finds someone like Angelina Jolie 'beautiful' but if I woke up next to her every morning, I would definitely drink myself into oblivion. And I feel that way about a lot of the 'beautiful' people that the world says we should find attractive; sorry but for me, if a woman is so thin you can see her bones sticking out of her body...that's not attractive...at all.
Honesty, yes. If your not working in a modeling agency or in a porno, your looks aren't as important in the Real World as your skills.
My response is that looks are one of THE most important things in getting hired with only experience and confidence being more important and education (where the person went to college) and humor being less important.
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/07/19/poll-how-much-is-beauty-worth-at-work.html
Again, random poll does not equal truth; most jobs, if it came down to hiring the ugly girl with pimples and the PHD against the chick with giant $%^& and no good requirements; they'll hire the zitty girl every time. Your looks only help you for maybe 5% of an interview; beyond that, you have to have the skills, the ability, and actually know the work to get the job; and again, if you think otherwise, your in for a rude awakening when your out of school and into the real world.
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324987
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Adamsm
where looks then become a distinguishing factor.Except, you realize, if something like that happens, the 'unattractive' person can sue for discrimination.
if you think otherwise, your in for a rude awakening when your out of school and into the real world.
yet you are not Alright, not going to try to be insulting here but...do you have an actual job? If not...well, you'll find out.
Post by
variable303
I'm 5'3" and male. Amazingly, I don't really get teased about it and have always been popular/had a lot of friends. That said, I've definitely struggled with confidence when it comes to girls. While I know that most girls wouldn't go for me since I'm so short, I also understand that a lot of my 'limitations' are self imposed. It's one of those things where I'm like, "How am I supposed to be confident in approaching a girl when she'll almost certainly think I'm too short for her?" Yeah, I know...wrong attitude to have, but it's tough to snap out of. I dunno, maybe I should see a shrink lol.
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Adamsm
@Adamsm Except, you realize, if something like that happens, the 'unattractive' person can sue for discrimination. If the candidates are both similarly qualified it would be difficult to prove. Also relating this back to the "heightism" there is currently no legal restraints against it to prevent discrimination. But bottom line discrimination is hard to prove unless there is profound evidence.
Not as hard as you think, with the current system in place; you can sue a restaurant after all if you drop hot coffee in your lap and blame them for your clumsiness. Isn't that hard to bring a suit up; whether it ever get's to court is up in the air though.
But again, I've never seen this 'heightism' thing in the job work place; my high school job, there were other students hired that were nearly my height, and those who weren't; and nearly all of the actual adult workers there were 'small'(compared to me at least). As for my other jobs; people 1-2 feet smaller then me, and a few that had quite a few inches on me in height; the only place you see it would be for a job that requires you to be tall; for example something like basketball, and there have been a few short ones in that industry too.
As for the women; again, the 'tall dark and handsome' thing is a major stereotype.
Post by
Monday
Heh, my brother is 19 and about 5"1' =P
Post by
soccergenius
Who needs height when you have a good vertical leap?
The only time I've seen preference to height as been on the b-ball court but you don't need height to be a good guard
Post by
Squishalot
It's worth noting that you wouldn't really want to date / work for anyone who discriminates or looks down on you (ha.. ha...) on the basis of height.
Having said that, I'm 5"6'-5"7' (we use the Metric system over here, so conversion isn't that accurate). I've had no problems finding a girlfriend 3-4 inches shorter than me who is happy with my height. In my friendship group, we've been amused at my female high school friend who is 4"10' or so, and married a guy who is easily 6"4'+. I'm pretty certain she didn't marry him for his height - if anything, it would've been a detriment.
As far as business and working is concerned, height and size is only really an issue when you're in a very competitive sort of company / industry where physical intimidation and ruthlessness generally is required to get ahead. That's not the sort of company you want to work in. I can safely say that I've got an enjoyable, well-paying job at a good company that respects its employees. It's not a coincidence - all my employers have been like that.
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324987
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kattib
In my friendship group, we've been amused at my female high school friend who is 4"10' or so, and married a guy who is easily 6"4'+. I have talked to a lot of short girls and they also prefer guys that are quite a bit taller than them as it makes them feel petite and protected. But, I can only speculate on someone I do not know.
Edit: I also use to like a girl that was 4"10 but she told me she prefers tall guys, I felt outraged at the hypocrisy and I have only seen her with tall guys (above 6 feet tall) since.
Whatever, when it comes to dating and stuff you can be as choosy as you want as long as the other person agrees. So sorry, but dont be outraged, just deal
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