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Post by
valundar
For all of you fellow Americans here, this is a friendly reminder to go vote.
Whatever you believe and for whomever you vote.. I don't care.
Just be sure to exercise the right that many have died to ensure you still have.
GO VOTE!
Post by
xaratherus
"If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for ... but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong." - Robert Heinlein
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Post by
valundar
isn't this a tiiiiiiiny winny bit off-topic though?
perhaps... Should we have it moved to the off-topic forum?
How would I go about having it moved?
Post by
Porcell
"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." -Churchill
Post by
Azazel
This is going to be locked or moved to off-topic.
Post by
Pwntiff
I think a major problem with the US Presidential Republic (we are not a democracy) is that there are too many demographics for politicians to appeal too. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but we're still voting presidents into office the same way we did 230 years ago. New York City has more residents today than the Thirteen Colonies did in 1780 and the country as a whole has over one hundred times the population and is the largest presidential republic (by population) in the world.
Another major problem is the general ignorance of the population. I think a lot of Republican party voters would try to accuse me of slander if I said "Big Government" actions like Prohibition, Emancipation, the Sherman Antitrust Act, and the Interstate Commerce Commission were all enacted and supported by the Republican Party. It wasn't until FDR's New Deal that the Republican Party became more in favor of a more hands-off government.
I personally think the two-party system (or at least our's) is inherently broken, because it is far easier to get people to vote against something that for it. President George W. Bush won his Presidency largely on the anti-same-sex-marriage point, an issue the President actually has no power over since marriage licenses are distributed by the states and protected as such by the Tenth Amendment.
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xaratherus
I personally think the two-party system (or at least our's) is inherently broken, because it is far easier to get people to vote against something that for it. President George W. Bush won his Presidency largely on the anti-same-sex-marriage point, an issue the President actually has no power over since marriage licenses are distributed by the states and protected as such by the Tenth Amendment.
I agree on the problems with a party system. There was a reason Washington was against political parties: "They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community..."
On an aside regarding same-sex marriage (and yes, I'm biased on the topic, although I try to remain open-minded about it): While marriage licenses are issued by the state, the non-recognition of certain marriage licenses issued by one state violates law at the federal level (the 'Full Faith and Credit' clause).
Post by
valundar
And that's why I don't vote.
I do not vote either
I'm sorry to hear that.
Many people died to ensure you have the right to vote.
Those that don't vote lose the only political voice they have.
Could do what my wife does... vote 1 party in as president.. then vote down the line for the other party in congress.
Edit:
want to clarify... when you don't vote, you do not lose the right to complain as some people say... ( i used to believe that until I sat and thought about it.) but what you do lose is the only "real" means you have to actually change things.
Post by
HiVolt
Many people died to ensure you have the right to vote.
Not voting could easily be considered a form of protest, so this statement works both ways.
Post by
mindthegap5
I voted labour but it made no difference and look what happened.. we have 2 bum boys in parliament who are going against everything they told the public they would do on the runup to the election.
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Post by
Patty
I voted labour but it made no difference and look what happened.. we have 2 bum boys in parliament who are going against everything they told the public they would do on the runup to the election.
Clegg seems to be overruled on a lot of the issues I voted for Lib Dem to inact. Like legalising marijuana. ^&*!ing conservatives.
I love how shiny David Cameron's forehead is. I want to know his secret.
Post by
valundar
Many people died to ensure you have the right to vote.
Not voting could easily be considered a form of protest, so this statement works both ways.
I'm not buyin that.
If ya wanna protest, go and write yerself in... or someone crazy, like Bin Laden.
Passive protest at least use their bodies to block something... such as a tank or a lumberjack... not voting is not a passive protest.
Post by
mindthegap5
I voted labour but it made no difference and look what happened.. we have 2 bum boys in parliament who are going against everything they told the public they would do on the runup to the election.
Clegg seems to be overruled on a lot of the issues I voted for Lib Dem to inact. Like legalising marijuana. ^&*!ing conservatives.
I love how shiny David Cameron's forehead is. I want to know his secret.
lol
Post by
HiVolt
Many people died to ensure you have the right to vote.
Not voting could easily be considered a form of protest, so this statement works both ways.
I'm not buyin that.
If ya wanna protest, go and write yerself in... or someone crazy, like Bin Laden.
Passive protest at least use their bodies to block something... such as a tank or a lumberjack... not voting is not a passive protest.
No, not voting can easily be a form of protest against the American political system in general. Voting endorses it- not voting does the opposite. Sure, one person alone can't do much with not voting- but one person alone also doesn't do much by voting. A single vote has never made a difference in any American election and never will.
Not voting is very much a form of protest.
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Post by
valundar
Many people died to ensure you have the right to vote.
Not voting could easily be considered a form of protest, so this statement works both ways.
I'm not buyin that.
If ya wanna protest, go and write yerself in... or someone crazy, like Bin Laden.
Passive protest at least use their bodies to block something... such as a tank or a lumberjack... not voting is not a passive protest.
No, not voting can easily be a form of protest against the American political system in general. Voting endorses it- not voting does the opposite. Sure, one person alone can't do much with not voting- but one person alone also doesn't do much by voting. A single vote has never made a difference in any American election and never will.
Not voting is very much a form of protest.
Years ago my local mayor was elected by a total of 3 votes.
Tell me again that a single vote doesn't count?
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