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Patty
Blood Elf Priests and Blood Knights (game-wise Paladin) draw their power from the Sunwell. (Correct?)Hmm, I'm not quite sure. Blood Knights certainly draw their power from the Sunwell, but priests are a little more difficult to place. I was under the impression that priests were the remnants of the Holy Light in Silvermoon - which was of course not as prelevant as in Stormwind or Ironforge.
Goblin and Worgen Priests I'm fuzzy about.I'd assume that worgen use the Light as well, although I'm not certain on that.
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Pwntiff
Yeah, "However, as of Cataclysm, Forsaken priests have learned to channel the light, as explained in the following blue post." That clears up Forsaken Priests, but I still hold that Shadow Paladins who are the champions of Sylvanas is far more palatable than Forsaken Paladins wielding the Light.
Again my main point was to forgo the "This race can be a Priest. Since priests wield the Light, this race should also be able to be a Paladin" fallacy. Also the converse of "This race can't wield the light, why should they get Paladins?"
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Pwntiff
I said more palatable because I always imagined Paladins as being completely devoted to a cause. About the only thing the Forsaken are devoted to are revenge and Sylvanas.
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GVHB
Just do the same thing the founders of the Silver Hand did, grab a Priest and teach him swordplay.
It was more like grab some knights and teach them to use the light.
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Skreeran
Actually, I'm not certain if Shadow Priests use the Light to heal other Forsaken.
It seems to me that most Shadow Priests don't heal the living at all, instead simply sticking to healing other Forsaken and using their powers to harm their enemies.
Shadow Priests are an entirely different animal than normal priests, and I think it's possible that a light-using healing undead priest is incompatible with a Shadow Priest.
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Pwntiff
Eh, most of my thoughts on Paladins are formulated from DnD 3.5, where you could be a Priest of any deity, but you had to a Paladin of a Lawful Good deity. If I were to roleplay a Forsaken Paladin, I would be a champion of Sylvanas and a wielder of the Shadow. If Blizzard told me that was wrong, I would stop either stop roleplaying him or race change to continue doing so.
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Skreeran
They do, according to the Lore Q&A.
And, according to the RPG, the Forsaken seek the Cult of the Forgotten Shadow for repairs.Can't see the Q&A right now, since I'm at school, but iirc, it just mentioned that Forsaken can use the Light to heal, but I don't remember it mentioning them using it to heal other Forsaken.
Members of the Cult of the Forgotten Shadow call themselves Shadow Priests, not because they wield only the Shadow, but because its what they worship, despite the fact that they also acknowledge both the Light and the Balance between the two.I know that, but knowledge and respect of other faiths does not entail practicing them. I acknowledge and respect Buddhism and some forms of monotheism, but I do not practice them.
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I know that game mechanics > lore for instances like this. I'll admit that both Paladins of Light and Paladins of Shadow are feasible additions to the Forsaken. I'm just thinking the Shadow Paladins are more feasible.
While I do hope that Blizzard will one day differentiate (at least graphically) the different nuances of Priest, I can live with the way they are now because the backing lore is secondary to actual gameplay for my enjoyment. The only times I truly get into lore are table-top games where they are so open-ended that having a decent lore background is a very good way to increase your enjoyment.
Like I said, because of DnD, in my mind Good = Paladin and Evil = Blackguard or some other form of fallen Paladin.
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Skreeran
Okay, I got the relevant quote from the Q&A:
Forsaken healed by the Light (whether the healer is Forsaken or not) are effectively cauterized by the effect: sure, the wound is healed, but the healing effect is cripplingly painful. Thus, Forsaken priests are beings of unwavering willpower; Forsaken (and death knight) tanks suffer nobly when they have priest and paladin healers in the group...
So Forsaken priests can use the light to heal Forsaken, but I don't think that necessarily means that it is the only way to heal other Forsaken. I still maintain that Shadow priests are the most common healers for the Forsaken (remember, Forsaken are animated by shadowy magics after all), simply because Forsaken Shadow priests would be far more numerous than Light priests.
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Adamsm
Okay, I got the relevant quote from the Q&A:
Forsaken healed by the Light (whether the healer is Forsaken or not) are effectively cauterized by the effect: sure, the wound is healed, but the healing effect is cripplingly painful. Thus, Forsaken priests are beings of unwavering willpower; Forsaken (and death knight) tanks suffer nobly when they have priest and paladin healers in the group...
So Forsaken priests can use the light to heal Forsaken, but I don't think that necessarily means that it is the only way to heal other Forsaken. I still maintain that Shadow priests are the most common healers for the Forsaken (remember, Forsaken are animated by shadowy magics after all), simply because Forsaken Shadow priests would be far more numerous than Light priests.
Even then, it's healing in that your just cauterizing any wounds, which might even ruin the chance to put on replacement parts, as the Light sealed it up, and there's nothing for the Shadow Priests or reanimators to fix the new limb/body part to.
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lordlundar
There's that whole "paladins can't die to the plague of undeath" thing that's supposed to prevent having Scourge/Forsaken paladins, despite that Crusader Bridenbrad storyline in Icecrown.
Caveat: it's unclear whether he dies of the plague, or rather if he dies from his combat wounds ; A'dal however appears to intervene to spare him the fate of being raised as Scourge (which isn't supposed to be possible since he's a pally).
Where does it say he's a paladin? Not all members of the Argent Crusade are paladins.
http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:The_Will_of_the_Naaru
Ah, thank you. I stand corrected.
And of course, paladin's aren't immune to diseases, but can expunge them from their body if they are devoted enough into the light. Mind you, the Scourge plague is an incredibly powerful disease...
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