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Human trinket racial nerf.
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cloudp
My point was only about double PvE trinkets; not full PvE gear.
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cloudp
an intelligent person would realize that I was referring to premade vs premades
LMFAO. please, please, i beg you to find me some stats off the percentage that a full premade (by random) runs into another full premade. that is by far the weakest argument ive heard you use yet. I'm guessing its probably about .02 percent. not 2%, .02 percent. Therefore, we have no testing ground (evidence) for how the emfh will affect cata rated bgs.
Hm... I disagree there. Rated BGs will obviously make those 0.2% much, much, much, much higher - in fact, I imagine 2000+ ratings will actually be more about premades than PuGs (If PuGs even reach those ratings, especially on smaller BGs))
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TheMediator
Anyone saying it isn't a big deal doesn't know what they're talking about. Humans essentially have no triggered racial effect now. The only way this could possibly be balanced in PVP is if every other racial ability was made unable to be used in PvP. You can't be competitive in serious high end PvP without having the 2 minute CC breaking effect, and the medallion completely overrides your triggered racial.
If you don't get that, you are dumb.
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TheMediator
The only bad racial was Gift of the Naaru, and now Every Man for Himself falls into the same category. And while I won't say you can't be competitive with Draenei or, now a human, you were at a disadvantage, and when it comes to higher end of the spectrum, sometimes having that disadvantage will totally screw you over when you factor in certain other disadvantages, like fighting a setup that counters yours.
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cloudp
It seems my concept was incredibly confuse; it seemed quite clear to me.
Clearly, your point about situational - you haven't read my posts a hundred percent. I said more than once: In a specific context (Arena Match),
changing the variables in the game
, if there isn't a single situation a racial has some sort of use, than it can't apply to all situations. In your explanation, we simply make that ret stun once and your argument makes no sense. If your opponent was a mage and you had Will of the Forsaken, you could change all variables from spamming frostbolt to using each of his spells once - WotF was utterly useless. Thus, situational. (That's ignoring the fact that you wouldn't exactly need much to down a Ret that doesn't stun...)
Perhaps, I can concede the fact that some racials are more situational than others (Though I disagree with that, pure semantics force me to concede it), but no racial is as ever-present as EMFH.
Using your own logic I could consider Gift of the Naaru and Stoneform useless if you didn't take damage, Arc.Torrent useless if the target never did a cast, Shadowmeld if he never casted at you. You see, it's not really something with practical use, is it? we have to consider full usage of a classe's abilities when comparing. Under such circumstances, EMFH is never useless.
I agree with the rated BG and Medallion's importance being less crucial than what it is in arenas, much due to idle time and unhealable zergs. However, Got nailed the problem - no other racial can be made useless by equipping a piece of gear. The racial's design is not a good one, IMO.
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