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Have LFD Make You Do All the Bosses
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Post by
PinktheDK
Can agree with op this behaviour is mostly a new plague in wotlk. It is not just the player fault, blizz should have done it impossible to access a new boss without killing the last. Two bosses is listed optional thought, Gundrak heroic Eck and Old kingdom heroic Mushroom boss(can't remember his name even).
The other bosses was meant to be done but can of various means be skipped. The hadronox boss is a bug skipping, novos bcs he cannot move and the big angry lizzard bcs he is not blocking your path.
There is three options you as a dps have:
1. premade grps
2. Talk to lfd and see if they wanna do extra.
3. Wipe them for being #$%^s and get kicked.
Option three is not recommended, but still an option for those "special" grps.
>The tank, healer, and other two DPS don't want to do Jedoga/Amanitar because they take almost as much time (trash included) as the rest of the instance.
>You get two flat triumphs for every heroic after the first
>There is no actual loss to you from this
>HAY GUIS IMMA WIPE YALL CUZ YOU DUN WANNA DO WUT I WANNA DO!
ProTip: You're in the wrong here. Please stop clogging LFD and wasting our time.
Post by
Cheatham
The best solution is to shorten your queue time, which means:
1 - Roll a tank
2 - Roll a healer
3 - Roll with a healer or tank
Then just roll with whatever your group seems to want. When I tank I say "skip?" before optional bosses, most times everyone wants to. If just one person wants them, I do them.
But with a queue time of less than a minute, the 2 badges for completing the dungeon says that your grind efficiency is little different whether you take the shortest path or clear all bosses.
Post by
Vaeku
>The tank, healer, and other two DPS don't want to do Jedoga/Amanitar because they take almost as much time (trash included) as the rest of the instance.
>You get two flat triumphs for every heroic after the first
>There is no actual loss to you from this
>HAY GUIS IMMA WIPE YALL CUZ YOU DUN WANNA DO WUT I WANNA DO!
ProTip: You're in the wrong here. Please stop clogging LFD and wasting our time.
You forgot one thing.
The gear that drops from the bosses people might actually need. Not every slot can be filled with emblem-bought equipment.
Post by
Pwntiff
You forgot one thing.
The gear that drops from the bosses people might actually need. Not every slot can be filled with emblem-bought equipment.
http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=cr=118:118:118:118;crs=45624:40752:47241:40753;crv=0:0:0:0;ma=1;gb=1
They can, it may not all be stellar gear, but you can completely gear a toon from nothing by emblems.
Post by
Vaeku
You forgot one thing.
The gear that drops from the bosses people might actually need. Not every slot can be filled with emblem-bought equipment.
http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=cr=118:118:118:118;crs=45624:40752:47241:40753;crv=0:0:0:0;ma=1;gb=1
They can, it may not all be stellar gear, but you can completely gear a toon from nothing by emblems.
I don't see any weapons in there.
And okay, I see your point... But anyways, not everyone has time to continuously farm heroics for emblems.
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Pwntiff
You don't see weapons because that's a filter of Database > Items > Armor, but you can get an epic weapon from the Argent Tourney in just about a week.
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Pwntiff
Yeah, I was badge farming in 3.0...that was fun...
The big problem now is that, on my server at least, if you so much as state you intention of forming a whole group, you get trolled out of Trade with "just use lfd noob."
When I tank, I call a vote, majority wins.
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Post by
excensis
I've obviously come to this topic quite late, and what I'm about to say has probably already been said. However, it comes down to a few basic things.
Many people, myself included, only do the daily random heroic for the 1-per-day reward of 2x, while the are just collateral.
the other thing that is important to note is the nature of 5man group politics. By the very nature of their role, tanks generally lead the 5 man group through the dungeon. By this token, it is ultimately up to the tank to decide which optional bosses he or she wishes to kill.
I'm a seasoned tank on two of my three characters, and I'll often skip King Dred in DTK, the first two bosses in UP, and always skip the optional bosses in OK.
The post raises a reasoned argument, but it fails to empathise with those that are time-poor and only wish to get their Frosties.
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Post by
Bruunpala
This is fine for new 80s like myself, who doesn't need the badges to catch up anyway.
I asked around and apparently people are doing LFD for the Emblems of Frost and nothing else, which makes sense.
So my opinion is that LFD should be changed so that it gives you the extra badges at the start if you do 1 boss. I think it's an easy enough fix.
I've heard some argument against this idea and I'd like to bring them up:
1. "I don't have time to do all the bosses."
And was able to join because you saved some time by using the LFD.
2. "Doing all the bosses is boring."
This is true, and the reason we should skip them, LFD was made to give fast EoF's.
3. "It's annoying to beat more bosses than I have to."
Fighting bosses in 5-mans is annoying? You are right sir, doing the same content over and over again gets tedious.
4. "I don't need anything from these bosses."
This is just so right. We are swimming in ICC25 epics. Some of us just hit 80 and could actually BUY the crafted gear.
So that's just my opinion. LFD should just give you the extra badges by joining the queue.
Removed the QQ. We got enough of these threads allready.
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