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Adamsm
Speaking of worgen druids, it is illogical for them to be there until they rejoin the alliance, as Gilneas has been closed off since before the Third War.It's explained in the starting zone.
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229054
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Garenzo
Actually, I'm fairly certain they refer to it as druidism even before they meet the elves.
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Boristus
As for Undead Paladins, I could see it work as them being some form of "Shadow Paladin".
As in, just as Human/Dwarf Paladins (Who worship the Holy Light) call on the Light, Undead Paladins (Who worship the Forgotten Shadow) would call on the Shadow.
Just make UD Paladins have shadow colored spell animations and darker-soundings spell names.
They would probably call them Lightslayers, since we haven't seen them ingame yet, as far as I know.
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GVHB
As for Undead Paladins, I could see it work as them being some form of "Shadow Paladin".
As in, just as Human/Dwarf Paladins (Who worship the Holy Light) call on the Light, Undead Paladins (Who worship the Forgotten Shadow) would call on the Shadow.
Just make UD Paladins have shadow colored spell animations and darker-soundings spell names.
They would probably call them Lightslayers, since we haven't seen them ingame yet, as far as I know.
The thing is that Blizzard probably won't take the time to create new spells that do the same as the already existing one. It would be easier (if Blizzard ever add something along the lines of a "Forsaken Shadow Paladin", which I doubt they will) to just give them the paladin spells that already exist. They did with the Tauren paladins, they cast Holy Light even when they don't workship that kind of holy magic source.
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Adamsm
Lightslayers exist, and they have nothing to do with Paladins... beyond wiping them out completely.
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Boristus
Before Cataclysm, I didn't think that they would go through such effort either. Now, though, you never know.
EDIT:
Lightslayers exist, and they have nothing to do with Paladins... beyond wiping them out completely.
I know what Lightslayers are, but they haven't shown up in game yet, as far as I know, and having a group of warriors that kill Paladins use dark versions of the enemies' powers seems like a contrivance that Blizzard would jump on for the class justification.
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Adamsm
Before Cataclysm, I didn't think that they would go through such effort either. Now, though, you never know.
EDIT:
Lightslayers exist, and they have nothing to do with Paladins... beyond wiping them out completely.
I know what Lightslayers are, but they haven't shown up in game yet, as far as I know, and having a group of warriors that kill Paladins use dark versions of the enemies' powers seems like a contrivance that Blizzard would jump on for the class justification.
They are a group of Rogues and Assassins, not ex-Paladins. If they were going to create a dark version of the Paladin(while another one: Death Knights are the original ones after all), it won't be based on the Light Slayer model.
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GVHB
Humans were presumed to be Druids, but now with the Ginean Worgen actually acting as Druids, it works. And, yes, according to The Last Guardian, Mages could actually use Nature magic to hasten the growth of crops by using the more Arcane version of Druidism (that is, causing the plant to age quickly by sucking the life out of it). It's not too far fetched to believe these Worgen, who are bestially tied with Nature and are able to channel Arcane energies, are able to be Druids.
What the mages use to grow crops is an arcane imitation of nature magic, it isn't
natural
nature magic.
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GVHB
Humans were presumed to be Druids, but now with the Ginean Worgen actually acting as Druids, it works. And, yes, according to The Last Guardian, Mages could actually use Nature magic to hasten the growth of crops by using the more Arcane version of Druidism (that is, causing the plant to age quickly by sucking the life out of it). It's not too far fetched to believe these Worgen, who are bestially tied with Nature and are able to channel Arcane energies, are able to be Druids.
What the mages use to grow crops is an arcane
imitation
of nature magic, it isn't
natural
nature magic.
Not necessarily - Since runecasting is as natural as shamanism or druidism, and the only difference between them is that the common arcanist bends the arcane energy to his/her will while the runecaster simply wields the arcane energy that is natural of Azeroth.
For all we know, Arcane magic is simply bending the natural world, not copying it.
So, magic use runecasting magic? It never gave me that impression.
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neoscorpio
Easy answer: the Forsaken
Why? How?
'Lol, lore noob'
etc.
Heres the answer -
Q: Can you please explain how "light" works? The lore states that undead are physically incapable of using the light, much like the Broken, but then we have Forsaken players casting healing spells, and Sir Zeliek in Naxxramas using pseudo-paladin abilities.
A: Without spoiling too much, we can tell you that wielding the Light is a matter of having willpower or faith in one's own ability to do it. That's why there are evil paladins (for example, the Scarlet Crusade and Arthas before he took up Frostmourne). For the undead (and Forsaken), this requires such a great deal of willpower that it is exceedingly rare, especially since it is self-destructive. When undead channel the Light, it feels (to them) as if their entire bodies are being consumed in righteous fire. Forsaken healed by the Light (whether the healer is Forsaken or not) are effectively cauterized by the effect: sure, the wound is healed, but the healing effect is cripplingly painful. Thus, Forsaken priests are beings of unwavering willpower; Forsaken (and death knight) tanks suffer nobly when they have priest and paladin healers in the group; and Sir Zeliek REALLY hates himself.
Source
and of course there's:
Sir Zeliek
Paladins do not get affected by the 'Curse of Undeath', is that what you are saying? Maybe this Forsaken i.e. the Forsaken Paladin character didn't get the curse; maybe he was actually reanimated.
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Adamsm
Forsaken Paladins will still be the ultimate Lorehole if they show up.
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neoscorpio
Forsaken Paladins will still be the ultimate Lorehole if they show up.
Oh, Jesus, did you even read anything of all that I posted
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Adamsm
Forsaken Paladins will still be the ultimate Lorehole if they show up.
Oh, Jesus, did you even read anything of all that I posted
I did... so the entire Forsaken Paladin group would be in intense and mind numbing pain every single time they cast a spell, as their bodies fell like they are constantly being ripped apart and burned from the inside out. Also..... The Forsaken, for the most part, HATE the Light; why do you think they created an entire group called 'Light Slayers'? Until Blizzard creates some kind of Shadow Paladin, I just don't see it as part of the Forsaken race.
Edit: Also.. your about 3 months behind on that info. It's been floating around the forums for a while, and most of us here in Lore and RP already know about it.
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