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Adamsm
Yet, many NPC's used metal armors and nothing more (mostly the orc warrior npcs, if I recall). And they didn't die out of cold.
And the trolls were all barefoot.Magic armour, and a race of barefoot humanoids; and even if the trolls were 'injured' by the cold, your forgetting something Delt: Troll regeneration, and probably with each healing they get more and more used to the cold(yeah just pulling things out here heh). But if your talking about the Drakkari or Winterbark tribes, they are used to the cold(heck, frost trolls look like they are made of ice already heh).
Sure, they might be crazy enough to go back to Northrend and try to rebuild things there, which should be awfully hard anyway... but they are now a part of the Horde, they took the Oath, and Garrosh certainly wouldn't let them sit there and do nothing. If they actually would.But it is fairly easily dealt with; create a Taunka village/city whatever in Winterspring; they'll have a location that is similar to their home(just not as cold), can travel south in Aszhara and take the Goblin speedway to Orgrimmar. But expecting them to move into Thunderbluff or Orgrimmar would be a bit much right off the back, at least until they've adapted to the warmer climates.
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GVHB
The only problem I see is that those race have just joined the factions so it wouldn't make a lot of sense to say, for example, to send a young Mag'har to train at the Valley of Trials as they would probably just train them at Garadar.
But, in some generations, Mag'har parents may decide to send their child to the Valley of Trials in order to train in one of the different classes. Remember that the new class/race combos are members of the biggest faction (Stormwind, Ironforge, Orgrimmar) trained by members of the recently joined sub-factions (Dwarf mages trained by Dark Iron, or shamans trained by Wildhammer).
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Adamsm
Or they do the DK phasing thing; you level in a special version of Nagrand till about 10, go through a portal, and pledge yourself to the Warchief.
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GVHB
Or they do the DK phasing thing; you level in a special version of Nagrand till about 10, go through a portal, and pledge yourself to the Warchief.
Blizzard could... but I doubt they would, making a new starting area just for a new skin of an already existing race (as in, Mag'har orcs would have the same racials/starting stats as normal green orcs) is something I would call a waste of time/resources. Think about it, if the starting zone of Mag'har was better than Valley of Trials no one would level a normal green orc.
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Vaeku
To play with them we just need a few skins. Nothing more. They can do that easily and put it in a small patch or something. Apparently they even tried to do it earlier in the beta!
How do you know it's easy? Have you tried to design a skin for a WoW toon? Didn't think so. Blizzard has to have a careful balance between new gameplay and updating existing gameplay. They also have a lot on their plate in Cata.
What's wrong with adding a few skins? More costumization and some love to role players.
I think it's pretty clear from the past that Blizzard doesn't care THAT much about RPers. Also, again, would you prefer more customization (that for existing toons would cost real money to even use) or more gameplay?
Also, it would be hard to implement Taunka as the male head models are different from Tauren.
Really, out of all the sub-species that we have, the only ones that would be "easy" to implement, with a skin change, would be Mag'har and dark iron dwarves (wildhammer dwarves use the same skins as Ironforge dwarves, right?).
But it really boils down to two things... The sub-races are minorities, AND they would have to start in a different starting zone. Having a Mag'har start in Durotar or a dark iron in Dun Morogh or a Taunka in Mulgore would be really stupid.
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(wildhammer dwarves use the same skins as Ironforge dwarves, right?).
Wildhammer Dwarves have tattoos.
And there aren't demons in Nagrand.
There
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Adamsm
(wildhammer dwarves use the same skins as Ironforge dwarves, right?).
Wildhammer Dwarves have tattoos.
There also, lore wise, larger and stockier then their mountain cousins, and have a lot more hair heh.
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HoleofArt
People seem to be forgetting that almost all these suggested models are already in-game. All they really have to do is design emotes for them (not hard, copy from the original model). Re-skinned models aren't that big of deal, and a little more customization that WoW really needs, wouldn't hurt.
Half the reasons against it are stupid and petty. Gameplay mechanics > Stupid things like "temperature adjustment". That line of thought doesn't even make sense compared to half of the other things in this game.
Yes, there are some species that should be left out, but almost all races have a race of just a different tribe/city/village and implementing them wouldn't be difficult as skins, and it takes no imagination to make it fit into lore. As an example, considering in Cataclysm it'll have been 2(3?) years since the Dark Portal, I'm pretty sure at least some of the Mag'har would be residing in Orgrimmar and that some of them would have gone to the Valley of Trials to train.
The only real reason Blizzard wouldn't implement this, is because of their own laziness. WoW's personal character customization is absolute garbage compared to pretty much every other MMO. It wouldn't be too big of a stretch to see them update it with new skins.
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Vaeku
(wildhammer dwarves use the same skins as Ironforge dwarves, right?).
Wildhammer Dwarves have tattoos.
There also, lore wise, larger and stockier then their mountain cousins, and have a lot more hair heh.
Ah, thanks for clarifying that. Wasn't too sure.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that the Wildhammer are thinner and taller than the Ironforge dwarves.
Actually, Wildhammer dwarves are taller, leaner and wilder than their earthier Ironforge cousins.
That's... what he said... Right?
Honestly, I think cata would be the best time to update all races. At least textures. So it's also the perfect time to introduce those skins.
Don't get me wrong, I would love for the textures/models of all the races (well, at the very least the vanilla races) to be updated (human and night elf males, bleh), and they said it's on their to do list, but it's not immediate. It's more important that they get worgen and goblins finished up and all of the other stuff done. They already scrapped a bunch of stuff, if they were to update the models/textures they'd have to scrap more probably.
Also, I think that if/when Blizzard updates the skins/models, I highly doubt they're going to add in the skins for mag'har, dark irons, etc. for the reasons I've stated previously.
Personally I don't even care that much. I don't RP, I like to know some lore, but I'm no lore "expert", I wouldn't pay much attention to those skins. But I do think it would be a nice touch, and that it would make much more sense than having an Ironforge dwarf training under a Dark Iron to become a mage just like that (for example).
I think it would be nice too, but it probably won't happen (I won't say it'll never happen, because hey, look at faction change). But IMO, it makes perfect sense for an Ironforge dwarf training to be a made under a Dark Iron.
Reason why is because the world is ending. Seriously, it's the same reasoning why the Horde is allying with the Dragonmaw... The world is in upheaval, the factions are losing resources while gaining others, etc. Makes sense that they would need to broaden their horizons. And I believe that is the actual stated reason behind night elf mages... If the cataclysm had never happened, lorewise night elf mages would never exist, because of the previous banishment of the Highborne. But both the night elves and Highborne realize what needs to be done.
You're just being overly sensitive there. They're minorities, I guess so, but so should be Blood Elves (inside the Horde), still they're everywhere, and last time I checked they were one of the most played races in-game. But who cares about that anyways? It's not reality and people shouldn't be that sensitive about those facts.
Meh, maybe... But remember, people were in an uproar over the draenei retcon so it wouldn't surprise me that some people might be in an uproar over playing a race that is almost completely extinct.
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