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31 pt. Hunter Talent Trees *Updated Again*
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Post by
HoleofArt
Seriously HoleofArt, keep trolling people who call you out for the inadequacies of your own post.
Inadequacies? Where?
What I'm saying is that you're making premature judgements on the talent trees, which are faaaaar from complete. You went so far as to say that you're not looking forward to your hunter in Cataclysm, which coupled with a post disparaging the new talents, leaves me with the inference that you're not looking forward to your hunter because of UNFINISHED talent trees.
Far from complete? They specifically stated which trees weren't far along, and guess what: Hunter's weren't in that group.
And another thing, it's beta. They've been made. Now they're subject to change. By change, I mean move things around, if that.
So no, this thread is perfectly valid.
Nice try.
Talent trees don't make a class?
L
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l
Troll harder.
Oh, and about your gear, you don't even come close. :)
Unless you're referring to my alt druid? If so, then you're stupid.
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207272
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Post by
HoleofArt
The only spec that, to me, seems like it's losing the feel that it has currently is the MM tree, and really only because of one talent that we're pretty much going to be required to put at least 1 point in to move down to better things.
Careful Aim.
That 20/40/60% extra crit for Aimed Shot if the target is at 90% hp or more...
Seems to me that the obvious intention is to start:
position
cast Aimed Shot
go through the motions
Careful Aim is terrible as it stands. Yay, we get a big opener.. once a fight.
That, and we also have to spend meaningless points in either Concussive Barrage, or Dazzled Pray.
So there's 4 wasted points, followed by the 2 we have to spend in Sic' Em (also worthless) and there's a 5th of our talents being wasted. Yay.
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550420
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Post by
HoleofArt
so wat do you guys think about this as a spec for mm in raiding
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#chZfrIo0krusog
Why only 1 in Posthaste and Resistance is Futile? Resistance is Futile actually isn't too bad, as anytime the tank repositions the boss, that's an extra 12% damage.
2 points in Imp. SS is completely worthless as you usually only use SS once per fight as MM.
Why One with Nature? As it looks now, those points are better spent in Hunter vs. Wild and maxing Posthaste and Resistance is Futile.
Do you not know much about the Hunter class? The Imp. SS shows you don't.
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Post by
zethcarn
Seriously HoleofArt, keep trolling people who call you out for the inadequacies of your own post.
What I'm saying is that you're making premature judgements on the talent trees, which are faaaaar from complete. You went so far as to say that you're not looking forward to your hunter in Cataclysm, which coupled with a post disparaging the new talents, leaves me with the inference that you're not looking forward to your hunter because of UNFINISHED talent trees.
When did talent trees ever make your class anyways?
And a comment about my gear? Unless I logged off in my old PvP set, its better than yours...and how does that make a difference?
This. The trees aren't finished.
Post by
HoleofArt
so wat do you guys think about this as a spec for mm in raiding
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#chZfrIo0krusog
2 points in Imp. SS is completely worthless as you usually only use SS once per fight as MM.
How do you figure? That's a bit too authoritative of a stance on Imp. SS, since we can't tell whether or not throwing in a second Steady Shot and getting a haste buff is better in the long run or not. Let alone, can you even get by without doing back-to-back Steady Shots, focus-wise? You'd need to be in the closed beta to see.
Imp. SS basically means your SS is like Immolate. It hits the target, then does the dot. Since Chimera refreshes SS, that basically means you only get that hit portion of the ability, once. That sounds like a waste of points when those could be used in other places.
Oh wow. Just realized why I'm confused. I'm referring to his two points in Imp. SerpS. Not Steady Shot. No, Imp. Steady Shot is well worth the points. Imp. Serpent Sting, however, is not.
Har har.
Post by
HoleofArt
This. The trees aren't finished.
Stop pointlessly posting in my thread.
kkthx.
We all know this, already. You can move along now.
Post by
zethcarn
This. The trees aren't finished.
Stop pointlessly posting in my thread.
kkthx.
We all know this, already. You can move along now.
contradicting yourself
even further
...
Post by
HoleofArt
This. The trees aren't finished.
Stop pointlessly posting in my thread.
kkthx.
We all know this, already. You can move along now.
contradicting yourself
even further
...
How am I contradicting myself?
Yes, we know they aren't finished and are subject to chance, but, as Blizzard stated, there were some trees not as far along as others. Hunters weren't listed. This means, that the trees as they are now, are going to be pretty close to live.
Now you're just trolling.
Post by
207272
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Post by
HoleofArt
/ignore trolling
_
@HoleofArt: I got halfway through your reply, thinking WTF? - then it dawned on me as well. Pretty silly of us, no?
Very. Hunters have too many similar acronyms. ;)
As to the rest, depending on how much damage SerpS will do, yes, it could definitely be useful as another attack while kiting. Hopefully though, now that AiS is taken off our "jump-shot" list, Aspect of the Fox will at least give us that extra bit of damage for kiting.
Post by
HoleofArt
Hunter vs. Wild in its current state will be taken by any serious Hunter simply due to the ridiculous amounts of Stamina on gear.
(Assuming 8k AP) 8000*.02+242*15 sec/3 = about 1210 damage per tick.
1210*5=6210 damage
.3*6210 = 1863 damage per application using rank 12 Serpent Sting.
Unless I did my math wrong (might have :P) that's a pretty decent amount of damage.
So you're right, it might be worth using in a PvP setting.
Post by
zethcarn
This. The trees aren't finished.
Stop pointlessly posting in my thread.
kkthx.
We all know this, already. You can move along now.
contradicting yourself
even further
...
How am I contradicting myself?
Yes, we know they aren't finished and are subject to chance, but, as Blizzard stated, there were some trees not as far along as others. Hunters weren't listed. This means, that the trees as they are now, are going to be pretty close to live.
Now you're just trolling.
In another post you state, "Boo-hoo?
Change =/= bad
Let the game go through Beta and make it to Live before you pass any judgements."
And yet in this thread you are passing judgement on
unfinished
talent trees, therefore contradicting yourself. Besides, unless you are a developer on the WoW team, you really don't know how many changes they have in store. This is why I think trying to "work out" builds at this point is really silly and pointless. This is my 2 cents and it's not trolling.
edit: typos
Post by
HoleofArt
In another post you state, "Boo-hoo?
Change =/= bad
Let the game go through Beta and make it to Live before you pass any judgements."
You're right. I did say that. The point you're missing is that I was referring to Cataclysm as a whole, not Hunters. People were QQing about how Cataclysm was changing the game and blah blah, simple QQ.
Basically you're taking that totally out of context. GG.
Tell me, how drastically are talents changed from beta -> live?
Not much.
You can go away now.
Post by
zethcarn
GG.
You can go away now.
Your horse...it's so high. I'm glad I don't play with your type ingame.
Post by
HoleofArt
GG.
You can go away now.
Your horse...it's so high. I'm glad I don't play with your type ingame.
No. It really isn't. There was just no need for you to post in this thread about how you don't think this thread should exist because there isn't a point. If other people are posting here, it obviously isn't pointless, as almost every class has a thread similar. Odd, isn't it?
That irritated me. You lost. Move along.
Post by
zethcarn
GG.
You can go away now.
Your horse...it's so high. I'm glad I don't play with your type ingame.
No. It really isn't. There was just no need for you to post in this thread about how you don't think this thread should exist because there isn't a point. If other people are posting here, it obviously isn't pointless, as almost every class has a thread similar. Odd, isn't it?
That irritated me. You lost. Move along.
So if you see 500 people jump off a bridge you gonna jump too? lmao
Post by
HoleofArt
Did you miss the point? Stop trolling this thread. kkthx.
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