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jefflovealex
I'm doing halls of stone yesterday, we get a medium geared tank, buffed he's at 39k hp, he insists we skip 2 bosses because he cba doing them, and that you don't need to do them, He then proceeds to pull without asking what whether we want to do the bosses. When me and my friends, i'm healing and they're dps, ask why he feels its pointless doing the bosses to find out the above he ninja pulls 10 mobs, leaves group.
Other thing, whats with tanks randomly leaving groups as soonas the dungeons start, the grooups aren't bad and neither were the players .
Anyone else seeing things like this?
Not a QQ its just an odd thing when it happens a lot in rdf
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jefflovealex
The dungeons are violet hold, halls of stone, dtk,uk, the easier dungeons, and he genuinely left after us questionioning him on why we were skipping the bosses. Only deduction i could make is he is the Get my daily frost badges and then log person, but even then he couldn't have been tortured for an extra 10 minutes.
Post by
tentacleboy
It's pointless to do the extra bosses in HoS because :
- If you're there for frosts, you gain nothing from the 2 extra bosses
- If you're there for triumphs, it's less badges/hour for the tank/healer to do the extra 2 bosses (because of instant queues for tanks/healers)
It's safe to assume from your story that the tank is not your friend, so the only reason for him to do 2 extra bosses would be to be special nice to random strangers.
Wasting just 10 minutes a day to be nice to random strangers adds up to a lot of hours after a few months.
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Porcell
It's pointless to do the extra bosses in HoS because :
- If you're there for frosts, you gain nothing from the 2 extra bosses
- If you're there for triumphs, it's less badges/hour for the tank/healer to do the extra 2 bosses (because of instant queues for tanks/healers)
It's safe to assume from your story that the tank is not your friend, so the only reason for him to do 2 extra bosses would be to be special nice to random strangers.
Wasting just 10 minutes a day to be nice to random strangers adds up to a lot of hours after a few months.
For Halls of Stone, the Rock Boss has like 8 trash packs before it, and seriously is not worth the time to clear. The Maiden boss is pretty quick to get to, but the 3 overlapping patrols in the first small room are a pain because many of them are AoEing casters. It's easier and faster just to skip it.
Heck, I skip the first boss in Old Kingdom, even though it would take only an extra minute to kill. In and out, quick runs, that's my aim.
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Uricidea
Time is money, and if you're not giving me money, I'm not giving you time.
Heroics have become unenjoyable to a point where I try to force myself one a day for frosties and thats it, so I can get onto other things I actually enjoy in the game.
If at the beginning of the instance I said "AFK for the next 10 minutes" as a tank, you would be angry. Me doing the extra bosses I might as well throw away that 10 minutes because it does me no good.
It's a game. It is all an enjoyable waist of time. Play the game, it isn't work. When you group up, even in LFD, you are accepting that you will have to work together. Show just a little courtesy for those in your group and let people accomplish what they need to.
Yesterday, I had a grouchy Ret-Pally thank me for getting him the Achievie in OK. At 1st he was griping and threatening to "Withhold his DPS" until we did it his way. After the run he had seen the light. Killin' stuff is fun, otherwise why would you
PLAY
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tentacleboy
I prefer to skip the optional bosses, indeed, only one of my 80s can benefit from even frosties now. But, I'll do the optional bosses if others want to. I don't understand;
It's safe to assume from your story that the tank is not your friend, so the only reason for him to do 2 extra bosses would be to be special nice to random strangers.
Wasting just 10 minutes a day to be nice to random strangers adds up to a lot of hours after a few months.Why is it so hard to be nice to strangers? Does it cause you a cramp? Does it give you an earache? Does it cause a disease that will make your @#$% shrivel up and fall off? Are you too 1337 for the scrubs that need triumph? What else would you have been doing?
Why the @#$%, are people so selfish in this game?
Ironic captcha: development sharing
The answer is right there for you : "Wasting just 10 minutes a day to be nice to random strangers adds up to a lot of hours after a few months."
What makes those people so special that they deserve several hours of my time ? I'm not running a *!@#ing charity event here. Cross-realm heroics are a transaction : you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. Not "you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours, then give you a foot massage and a blowjob".
Oh, btw, I'm a scrub who needs triumphs as well, but as I said before, a fast clear for the bonus +2 makes for better emblems/hour than clearing the whole instance (especially when it's frickin' HoS).
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HoleofArt
I'm actually so sick of heroics I don't even bother doing them anymore.
I completely understand a tank not wanting to do extra bosses. If he's feeling generous, sure, I have no problem tagging along (as a dps/healer) but if he wants to be in and out? I respect that, as I feel the exact same way and skipping the bosses is much preferred.
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tentacleboy
]Nothing makes them special. No more special than you, who thinks that you (5 minutes of your time) is more special. Pardon me, for my inability to comprehend how anyone can be so unyielding and so self-absorbed.
Right, neither of us are special. Like in a business deal. I offer a service : to tank for you. You offer a service : to heal, or DPS for me. My terms are simple : I don't want to do extra bosses. If you do not agree with those terms, you are free to find another tank to provide the service, and I will find 4 other people to provide the service for me.
Oh, by the way, did I mention that roughly 10 times out of 10, the one who wants to do extra bosses is the odd man out ? So I guess it's more like, I'm free to find another DPS (2 seconds of queue), you're free to find another group (20 minutes of queue). Your choice.
I've yet to run into a group where the majority (3 players) wanted to do the extra bosses in HoS. If I were to find such a group, I would probably exercize my right to refuse the business deal and find another group where I would not end up as 60% of damage done as a tank.
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Dragalthor
I'll start by stating that I am not bothered whether 'optional' bosses are skipped or not. My only query is to when these bosses suddenly became optional? When we all first ran these heroics the whole group would normally clear the entire instance, standfast the packs of mobs that could be avoided, including all the bosses.
Now, however, suddenly half the bosses in most instances are now 'optional' and more often than not skipped by the groups. As far as I am aware the 'optional' bosses still drop loot that is usable, to a certain degree, by those who have freshly dinged 80. I remember in my early days of turning 80 running a certain heroic everyday for a particular drop off of a particular boss which for some new 80's just won't happen if the group they are put into wants to skip that 'optional' boss.
Now I can hear all the naysayers saying either a) if you want a particular piece of loot run it with your guild, which is not always possible for some people, b) why bother when you will possible swap that peice out with emblem gear soon, though for the definition of that 'soon' for some people is approximately equivalent to Blizzards soon or c) just drop the group and requeue which again for some people who don't have the time to be able to do that.
All of the above has gotten me slightly off topic as I have no solutions to offer to those people who may be suffering from that problem but was merely to enquire once again when these bosses suddenly became so 'optional' to so many people.
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