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[3.3.5] Mutilate raiding.
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Post by
Liquoid
Spec:
51/18/2
Currently, 51/18/2 is hands down the best spec for Mutilate Rogues. It outperforms its predecessor, 51/13/7, on all levels. Even though Rupture can now innately crit as of 3.3.3, neither 51/13/7 nor 51/7/13 can compete with 51/18/2 mainly due to Haste being too strong of a stat.
Glyphs:
Glyph of Hunger for Blood
and
Glyph of Mutilate
are must. Third glyph should be
Glyph of Tricks of the Trade
, as it is very strong for raids.
Glyph of Rupture
is worthless since at no point should you be using Rupture in fight, assuming you have a balanced set-up with all buffs/debuffs in your raid. Glyph of
Slice and Dice
is barely viable due to
Cut to the Chase
.
Rotation:
If possible, start with Garrote. If not, Mutilate. In both cases, you want to start out in Stealth due to
Overkill
Hunger for Blood
Slice and Dice
Mutilate until you have 4+ Combo Points
Envenom
Now, repeat 4 and 5
With step 6, there is a way to improve your DPS even further. You can try maximising
Envenom
buff's uptime. When Envenoming, pool your energy and use Envenom at last possible moment (depending on latency, this can vary from 80 to 90 Energy). If you Envenom as soon as you have 35 Energy and 4+ CP's, you're essentially wasting the buff's duration throughout the fight. This is called "clipping". Clipping is only acceptable when Heroism/Bloodlust is up, i.e. you're supposed to burst the boss. As you get more Haste, and consequently more energy gained from Focused Attacks, you will find it harder to pool.
To keep track of whether your Envenom buff is up, it is advisable to use an addon - currently I'm using
ForteXorcist
myself. Alternative addons are
Power Auras Classic
,
NeedToKnow
and
EventHorizon
.
You should Vanish when your first Overkill fades, and then Vanish every time it's ready to maximise Overkill's uptime.
#showtooltip Vanish
/cast Vanish
/startattack
If the fight involves frequent target switching, then use the following as replacement for your Mutilate button:
#showtooltip Mutilate
/startattack
/cast Mutilate
Should you find trouble finding a working copy of a Mutilate spreadsheet/similation tool, I use iDPS and Aldriana's 1.3.3 version. Al
driana's last official update was in line with 3.3.0. However it is fine to use it since you won't be using Rupture at all (as mentioned before), so there isn't even a need to fake the buff by forcing 4pcT8 to be always active.
Aldriana's 1.3.4 Mutilate Spreadsheet (3.3.5 ready)
As you play around with gemming, you'll see that T9 geared Rogues will benefit more from full AP gemming, and as they gain gear from ICC, Haste overcomes AP in EP and becomes the best stat. If you're wearing ICC gear and gem full AP, you'll see Haste recommended However, if you then change over to full Haste, you will see Haste's EP drop below 2.0. Why?
Haste EP's improves as your AP increases. Therefore, once you're decked out in T10, you will benefit the most from mixing AP gems with Haste (
N.B.: YMMV
).
Post by
Liquoid
Links for glyphs/rotation inc.
Post by
CeeKay
<thumbs up>
Possibly clarify the buff time a bit more. Like,
"The general rule for maximizing the envenom buff time is to use a 4-5cp envenom when your envenom buff is just about to expire.
If you find yourself in the situation of having: 4-5cp, time left on your envenom buff, and you are nearing 100 energy, simply preform an envenom before reaching 100 energy regardless of the time left on your envenom buff and continue with the normal rotation."
That was the only part that was confusing to me, but the whole trying to describe the procedure for maximizing is difficult, feel free to use any or all of what I wrote if you think it's better.
CK
Post by
Liquoid
Will do, got a 10man atm.
Post by
CeeKay
No worries, I won't inform your RL that the reason you died while doing Heroic Festergut was that you were busy checking wowhead posts.
Post by
Liquoid
Only funship atm.
Post by
Caperon
Gz and thx on behalf of the whole wowhead community and the future rouges.
Post by
KidB
I think regarding point 6. of the rotation, you should mention an addon of some sorts that would make tracking the envenom buff easier, like eventhorizon or such.
Post by
Liquoid
Will do, got a 10man atm.
Post by
KidB
*bothers liq a bit more in hopes of him dying/wiping the raid*
Post by
Caperon
Ps can you please make a "3.3.3 subtlety raiding" thread, please?
Edit:
Preferable with just "Not gonna happen" in it, so i can post it in other threads to give them false hope.
Post by
Liquoid
Yes, I will. It will be my 3000th post.
Post by
Liquoid
*bothers liq a bit more in hopes of him dying/wiping the raid*
I F*CKING FAILED LK10HC SHADOW TRAP.
Post by
KidB
I F*CKING FAILED LK10HC SHADOW TRAP.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3584/1268020843393.jpg
Post by
Caperon
Yes, I will. It will be my 3000th post.
Wicked.
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105944
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Post by
LeionX
Liquoid. You should let Shad use this in his guide. Make it a joint effort. When you guys are not trolling, the stuff you guys have to say is usually invalueable.
Good work though. Keep this up. I know it's really really pointless. But do one for Sub, something to have fun with when a rogue doesn't wanna top the charts all the time.
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105944
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Post by
Liquoid
....Wat? Two points in Relentless Strikes over two in Opportunity? 20% to Mutilate Damage isn't competitive?
yes relentless strikes > opportunity
Shad got trolled, this is rare.
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