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Post by
tugipus
Hi warriors
I recently started pvp on my affliction lock and warriors-healer teams are quite hard to beat.
Hence the (maybe stupid) question: If neither my partner nor me would actually hit the warrior (both just trying to kite in mid range and go for the healer) would his dps suffer from lack of rage? If so, would that be a viable strategy?
Thanks.
Post by
sgtschultz22
I am not to experienced at PvP but I would imagine that if he is only gaining rage from attacking you he would suffer fomr lack of rage.
Post by
tugipus
thats basicly the point of my question...do warriors have a source for rage that is sufficient to support their full dps (or close to that) if they get totally ignored in terms of attacking them.
Post by
sgtschultz22
As prot no. Prot rage is main source is incomming dmg. Other specs gain decent rage from swinging big 2 hand weps and gain rage through attacking.
Post by
tugipus
thanks, so if i see a shield warrior i swich off thorns and ignore him ;)
How much is "decent"? In most setups i feel the dmg we put on the warrior is not really pressuring the healer a lot more than the dmg and mana drain i put on the healer. So even if it reduces dmg by only 10-20% or so it might be worth a shot.
Post by
Zakkhar
As prot no. Prot rage is main source is incomming dmg. Other specs gain decent rage from swinging big 2 hand weps and gain rage through attacking.
Prot main source is incoming damage..... in PVE.
Prot main source of rage in PVP is charge in combat every 15s (sometimes with Imp Charge talent, but most Prot pvps dont go into arms to be able to take blood craze), outgoing damage with slow hard hitting 1hander and Imp Bloodrage. Also prot is extremly rage efficient due to skills proc (sword and board) and talented rage reduction (puncture, intensify rage).
By avoiding to hit him you just make your tactics handicapped and easily counteractable as he can focus on peeling you and defending his buddie(s).
Does it look like he needs to be hit to gain rage?
TL,DR: No, the "tactic" of avoiding to hit warrior is not viable.
Basically this:
I am not to experienced at PvP...
Post by
tugipus
i have to acknowledge this comment sounds somewhat a bit more pro than the others ;)
By avoiding to hit him you just make your tactics handicapped and easily counteractable as he can focus on peeling you and defending his buddie(s).
Avoiding him does not mean dont cc him, just dont damage him. Anyway, i thought this "tactic" would not work in the first place, but asking the experts never hurts...thank you.
Post by
sgtschultz22
That is precisly why I said I am not experienced at PvP
Post by
Zakkhar
Avoiding him does not mean dont cc him, just dont damage him. Anyway, i thought this "tactic" would not work in the first place, but asking the experts never hurts...thank you.
If they can cc him 100% of time, why would they ask about rage starve in first place?
If he is cced 100% of the time his rage and potential burst he can do with it is irrelevant.
2v2 is about ccing 1 and bursting the other. If there goes a defensive cd (shield wall, pain suppression, bubble etc) you need to switch for his partner asap and after its gone focus fire on the target that is out of cooldowns and trinket. Avoiding hitting one target (to the point of turning of thorns wtf) just because it can get more rage of this is stupid. If you avoid hitting him means you cannot pressure the opposite team.
You wont be able to beat any warr+healer with this tactic, unless you play double dps and you have super burst.
Post by
masti
First off, whats your current setup?
Double dps or dps and healer? And what specific healer do you have problem with?
And secondly, a warrior is really dangerous that cant be denied, but do your really go for the warrior first if you see one?
Post by
Zakkhar
And secondly, a warrior is really dangerous that cant be denied, but do your really go for the warriior first if you see one?
With a Paladin usually yes (used to play double dps). Similar with druid if we notice the druid early and warrior isnt prehotted.
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Post by
Zakkhar
Anyone else wondering why warriors are helping a lock figure out warrior vulnerabilities in PvP?
"lock" the thread...
Warriors have vulnerabilities in PvP? Really? And we posted any?
All we posted was that no matter what you do, you get DESTROYED!
Post by
tugipus
Anyone else wondering why warriors are helping a lock figure out warrior vulnerabilities in PvP?
"lock" the thread...
hehe...if you take that angle you should worry much more why horde players are helping alliance players in this forum and vice versa.
I am playing with a resto druid and we dont have problems with healers, just with some melee like warriors and rogues. Usually we try to cc the dps and drain the healer (dots on the dps at the same time). The idea was not to dot warriors to decrease the amount of dps they can do.
Post by
Meggie
Bloodrage + intervene is another source of rage.
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