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Post by
taurenmoo812
You've just come all guns blazing in your defending the alliance from what I say about them. This is good actully, it shows to me your not just hiding behind a neutral pov but actully are just as much a fanboy of your own faction as I am of mine.
The thing I've been is completely honest about that, so anything else besides I at least know where I stand with you now.
no offense, but there a difference between "fanboy" and somehome who doesnt like some guy constantly berating his faction in every post for no reason.
Well no offense back, but given the number of times the horde gets bashed as being portayed as immoral, or how a 'pure alliance fan' wants to draw on the hordes faults but never there own, someone actully needs to put there word in against it.
Give it a rest you two. This is a whine thread about Horde favouritism, not a sparring ground for your little rivalry.
Agree to disagree or whatever it is people do to accept they annoy each other without having to say sorry.
honestly, this thread was gonna head this way even if I hadn't stepped it, since the subject was one faction saying how they have it worse then the other one. Its not really something that you gonna have everyone nodding there heads agreeing with.
Post by
Monday
or how a 'pure alliance fan' wants to draw on the hordes faults but never there own
This made me chuckle. What do you do then?
In short your agreeing with Varians opinion of them that they are scum and should be wiped out so as not to tanish the alliances pretty image. Well thats good you cleared that up.
God knows how you think your survive having worgen..
No I don't, stop shoving words in my mouth. If you actually read my post and looked at it And for the second point, I would call them scum as well, until they prove themselves. Once they proved themselves in ICC and the Ashen Verdict he wasn't calling them scum anymore. But right then, he Death Knights had just wiped out about 80% of the human population in the Eastern Plaguelands, including members of the Argent Dawn. Even if they were my enemies I would be pretty $%^&ed as well.
So all in all, yes you (as a Death Knight) were scum when you joined the Alliance.
If you read it, THEY WERE SCUM AT THE BEGINNING. THEY WERE SCOURGE, EVIL, AMORAL AND MURDERERS! NOW THEY ARE NOT SCUM BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROVED THEY ARE LOYAL TO THE ALLIANCE AND WILL GO TO ANY LENGTHS TO DEFEND IT.
Did the caps make it easier to read my point?
Post by
taurenmoo812
That point was already proven when they joined the ranks of there respected faction. We still don't see Thrall or even garrosh arranging something to see the hordes deathknights to be offed, like varian did.
Post by
Monday
That point was already proven when they joined the ranks of there respected faction. We still don't see Thrall or even garrosh arranging something to see the hordes deathknights to be offed, like varian did.
This shows your ignorance and unwillingness to read my posts.
And Varian personally gave him that mission right?
Yes, no maybe? Answer please before you continue to slander.
Post by
Adamsm
Except, as I told Rank, our favorite Alliance sided Death Knight went off by himself, he wasn't ordered to go to the Necropolis(see Death Knight for full story), and his sister sends us after him to bring him back 'alive'.
Post by
taurenmoo812
This shows your ignorance and unwillingness to read my posts.
You arn't exactly reading what I said either here. thrassrian became cannon fodder under varians orders as I recall.
And btw, those were scarlets the deathknights wiped out, the same scarlets players have been killing for years, so it wasn't even an attack on the alliance. The argent dawn was the exception, but a neutral faction as it was.
Post by
Adamsm
This shows your ignorance and unwillingness to read my posts.
You arn't exactly reading what I said either here. thrassrian became cannon fodder under varians orders as I recall.
And btw, those were scarlets the deathknights wiped out, the same scarlets players have been killing for years, so it wasn't even an attack on the alliance. The argent dawn was the exception, but a neutral faction as it was.
Except, as I told Rank, our favorite Alliance sided Death Knight went off by himself, he wasn't ordered to go to the Necropolis(see Death Knight for full story), and his sister sends us after him to bring him back 'alive'.
Just because you seem to be ignoring these posts Tauren.....
Edit: Also, just like Koltira, Thrassrian is part of the Ebon Blade, not a true faction; so while Varian can ask him to do something, he doesn't have to after all, same as Koltira and Thrall.
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Post by
Monday
This shows your ignorance and unwillingness to read my posts.
You arn't exactly reading what I said either here. thrassrian became cannon fodder under varians orders as I recall.
And btw, those were scarlets the deathknights wiped out, the same scarlets players have been killing for years, so it wasn't even an attack on the alliance. The argent dawn was the exception, but a neutral faction as it was.
So? If I go mass murder some Jews, who aren't part of my religion, does that mean it's all right?
And read Adams' post please.
Edit: And Thanodius.
Post by
taurenmoo812
So? If I go mass murder some Jews, who aren't part of my religion, does that mean it's all right?
And read Adams' post please.
Edit: And Thanodius.
oh good god, this is world of WARcraft, it isn't a real life factor of a genocide that happened.
Post by
Adamsm
Heh, so, he'll just ignore what we posted.
Post by
Monday
So? If I go mass murder some Jews, who aren't part of my religion, does that mean it's all right?
And read Adams' post please.
Edit: And Thanodius.
oh good god, this is world of WARcraft, it isn't a real life factor of a genocide that happened.
Lol and weren't you saying that you hated it when people use that it is world of WARcraft when they would say they want Garrosh to start a war? Hypocrite much?Heh, so, he'll just ignore what we posted.
As usual.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Heh, so, he'll just ignore what we posted.
ok wth is that about? What part am I ignoring now? Fun now makes a comparison something that could have happened in the holocaust and thats something to be overlooked?
I played that questchain on the only alliance toon I have left, back when wotlk came out, and from there it gave a solid reference that thrassrian was sent to his death under varians order. Now they make a graphic novel, and it seems that was well and truely retconned out, and people just pretend it didn't happen? And here I thought you were against the notion of things being retconned.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Lol and weren't you saying that you hated it when people use that it is world of WARcraft when they would say they want Garrosh to start a war? Hypocrite much?
regardless of what characters I do and do not like in the lore, and regardless of how you want to think there be a balanced argument in all things, that is exactly the point, this is a war based game of two sides, and there are always points of arguments that will be against one another.
Post by
Monday
I played that questchain on the only alliance toon I have left, back when wotlk came out, and from there it gave a solid reference that thrassrian was sent to his death under varians order.
Give me reference.
Fun now makes a comparison something that could have happened in the holocaust and thats something to be overlooked?
I don't understand this sentence.
The comparison fits.
And you are overlooking a lot.
Post by
Adamsm
I played that questchain on the only alliance toon I have left, back when wotlk came out, and from there it gave a solid reference that thrassrian was sent to his death under varians order. Now they make a graphic novel, and it seems that was well and truely retconned out, and people just pretend it didn't happen? And here I thought you were against the notion of things being retconned.
Dude, Varian isn't at Valiance Keep, so how can it be the King who sends him off to 'die' in your words; and again, he's Ebon Blade, he went of his own free will, had he wanted to, he could of said no, and someone else would have found out there was a Blood Prince in control at the Keep, possibly even a Horde chain. Your letting your own hatred of Varian colour everything you type, and accusing him of things he didn't have a single thing to do with. That would be like accusing Thrall of having a hand in the Broken Front because he's the over all leader of the Horde.
Post by
taurenmoo812
Dude, Varian isn't at Valiance Keep, so how can it be the King who sends him off to 'die' in your words; and again, he's Ebon Blade, he went of his own free will, had he wanted to, he could of said no, and someone else would have found out there was a Blood Prince in control at the Keep, possibly even a Horde chain. Your letting your own hatred of Varian colour everything you type, and accusing him of things he didn't have a single thing to do with. That would be like accusing Thrall of having a hand in the Broken Front because he's the over all leader of the Horde.
The graphic novel, which appears to be the reference here, wasn't made until after wotlk came out, and I did that quest chain before then. For all it was that quest chain hinted at the fact it was an order from the king that thrassrian followed and lead to what should have killed him. Its not so hard to believe they'd have retconned something in a patch to go with the story in the graphic novel, which is the only means of explanning it.
And you are overlooking a lot.
As are you. The only thing here is to agree to disagree, otherwise it'll go on for pages and pages of the same thing.
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Post by
Monday
And you are overlooking a lot.
As are you. The only thing here is to agree to disagree, otherwise it'll go on for pages and pages of the same thing.
What am I overlooking?
And I find it funny you overlooked the rest of my post, part of which is asking for a reference. Varian never set foot in Borean, how could he have sent Thassarian on the mission if he wasn't there?
Post by
Adamsm
^ This, nice point Vaalasha.
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