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Are you ashamed of playing World of Warcraft?
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Post by
qwertydood
When "society" consists of friends and family whom you neglect to immerse yourself in this world, you most definitely should require their approval.This statement indicates that you think
all
WoW players are sacrificing social time for hobby time; that there is only one category to fit into.
You're forgetting to incorporate the "when" into your interpretation. The "when" indicates that what follows is not always the case. To rephrase, I guess I could say "When you neglect your friends and family to immerse yourself in this world, you most definitely should require their approval." It's almost a different point altogether, but it certainly doesn't contradict the first.
I can see how you could misinterpret that, however.
Beyond familial duties, I really have
zero
obligation to socialize if I don't want to. I have a cousin who really likes to hang out with me, but I don't like to hang out with him, so what do I do? I spend my time otherwise. I don't owe debts to anyone,
no one
but me has any hold over my time.
This is a completely different instance because you just don't like to hang out with him. You do owe your friends your time, however, if you expect them to be your friends.
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Post by
Wooohooohooo
I have no shame in playing WoW & it’s very wrong to say any WoW player accused of WoW addiction, when in fact it’s more of an obsession, unless trauma is involve then it has become an addiction.
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Post by
qwertydood
You do owe your friends your time, however, if you expect them to be your friends.
No, I don't. If I go to hang out with people when I really want to be raiding, I'm just going to be cranky and resentful about it, so what's the point? I'm not one of those people who wants to be social 24/7, my friends know this and accept it, because they're all similar to myself in that aspect. I wouldn't expect any of them to hang out when they don't feel like it either. They all know I play WoW, some of them are gamers too, and we all value "it's raiding night" as a good reason not to come clubbing. If one of us stays away for a full month, then yeah we'll talk, but a few times isn't a problem.
Owing people your time and wanting to spend time with them are two very different things. When a friendship relies on the former rather than the latter, something is wrong with the friendship. So, of course whenever a friend needs me and on special occasions such as birthdays I'm there, but beyond that I only go to hang out when I truly want to. That way the time I spend with my friends is truly enjoyable for all of us.
Well then, I guess you have a vastly different view on friendship than I do.
See, in the many groups of friends I involve myself with, none of them would turn down an invitation to hang out to play a video game instead; its just unheard of and generally considered disrespectful. Maybe we just value our friendship more than our videogames, maybe not.
I do think, however, that the point at which you become "cranky and resentful" about spending time with friends because you are missing a raiding night is the point at which you should be ashamed of playing WoW.
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Post by
qwertydood
Given the choice between sitting and playing WoW, and hanging out with my friends IRL, my friends win hands down. I guess this doesn't make me a true addict. If I have nothing else to do, I see no issue logging on for a few hours to play the game though.
The argument of "I owe my friends nothing" probably begs to prove that you are not a very good friend in general, and the only time you go to those friends are when you need something from them.
QFT
My sentiments exactly.
Post by
windstrum
I'm not ashamed per se, but I definitely don't brag about playing WoW. It tends to lead to ridicule, both immediately and down the track. No other game does this to such an extent.
The problems with WoW's stigma began when:
It became increasinly popular in western countries.
WoW began to get negative press, as MMO addiction-related stories began to surface.
WoW unfortunately was always going to be the scapegoat once it became vastly more popular than other MMO's (in the west). The problem we have now is that people automatically associate WoW with addicted gamers. And it's too easy for people to be ignorant in humour, there's no fighting it.
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Post by
Ahmi
TL/DR: People hate WoW because it steals people away from reality, which causes them to neglect the things that should really matter.
So, in your opinion going to bar is a thing that should really matter?
/facepalm
Post by
xaratherus
"A man in South Korea who went on a 50 hour binge playing World of Warcraft, died of heart failure, caused by dehydration and starvation"
That right there is just one example of something that might shock someone who does not play Online Games, or even games for that matter.
Which says far more about the herd mentality of the general populace, and their willingness to believe the sensationalized headlines of the mass media, than of the billions of gamers who haven't died from gaming.
Not that I'm disagreeing with you - it's these "splash" stories that the non-gamer remembers when someone mentions "World of Warcraft", in the same way that many people still equate Dungeons and Dragons with the "steam tunnel incidents" that occurred in the late 70s, leading to the fictionalized Mazes and Monsters film.
TL/DR: People hate WoW because it steals people away from reality, which causes them to neglect the things that should really matter.
So, in your opinion going to bar is a thing that should really matter?
/facepalm
Exactly. When you strip away the details, there is no difference between a pastime like WoW and, say, a pastime like watching football. However, society considers football to be "acceptable" because it's ingrained into the culture, and so fails to notice their fallacy in judging online gaming by different standards.
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Post by
Murrdurr
Im not ashamed to play WoW, I could care less who thinks what about it. I have a couple friends that dont play and a couple that do. We all have full time jobs with stressful hours and they know I'll say no if they want me to hang. Sometimes I just dont feel like leaving and would rather hang out with my wife and son and play some WoW at some point in the day. That said I know sure as hell they would say no too, if they say no to a football/basketball/baseball party than yeah we got some problems lol. But when I didnt have any of those things and was still dating, in school, no kid; yeah I wouldnt turn down having a good time with my friends. Drinking and partying was just too fun ;)
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