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Will Garrosh go the way of Krenna?
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Adamsm
I'm sure toward the end of the expansion, there will be a Horde quest(possibly Alliance), to remove Garrosh and help Thrall back into the seat of power, sort of life the Battle for Undercity. Or it's possible Garrosh will do something massive, have it blow up in his face, and step down willing.
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taurenmoo812
Its more so Krenna has gone the way of Garrosh.
But she and her sister were both one-time backround characters.
Garrosh is going to be a much bigger plot device.
Blizzard has also already said Garrosh will be more "likeable" in Cata, so he probobly won't be as bad as everyone thinks.
And Inb4 Taurenmoo :P
Blizzard also said there be new dance moves in wotlk with the words faceslamming you in the trailer. One learns to take what they promise with a pinch of salt until proven otherwise.
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taurenmoo812
I'm sure toward the end of the expansion, there will be a Horde quest(possibly Alliance), to remove Garrosh and help Thrall back into the seat of power, sort of life the Battle for Undercity. Or it's possible Garrosh will do something massive, have it blow up in his face, and step down willing.
I guess if he does something self sacrificing like his daddy did and dies an honorable death then I could live with that. Nothing short of that will make me like him though.
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GVHB
Blizzard also said there be new dance moves in wotlk with the words faceslamming you in the trailer. One learns to take what they promise with a pinch of salt until proven otherwise.
The new dances weren't an important part in the plot of the WotLK expansion, Garrosh will probably be so in Cataclysm.
I guess if he does something self sacrificing like his daddy did and dies an honorable death then I could live with that. Nothing short of that will make me like him though.
Still, it would be repetitive to have him die like his father.
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taurenmoo812
Garrosh has done better and more for the Horde then the faction leaders combined. Please dont make me like things like Grimtotems infiltrating Thunder Bluff,Burning Blade dancing around Org, UC's RAF problem ect...
Garrosh steamrolled his way through Northrend. Please allow us to enjoy competent leadership for a bit.
You are kidding right...?
Do you even bother to read lore before commenting on it?
Still, it would be repetitive to have him die like his father.
Oh blizzard arn't known for having repeatitive plotlines are they. which aspect will become corrupt next I wonder. Or which character will raise from the dead with a set back plotline
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Haxzor
Garrosh has done better and more for the Horde then the faction leaders combined. Please dont make me like things like Grimtotems infiltrating Thunder Bluff,Burning Blade dancing around Org, UC's RAF problem ect...
Garrosh steamrolled his way through Northrend. Please allow us to enjoy competent leadership for a bit.
Because he totally helped form the Horde.
amirite?
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taurenmoo812
Garrosh steamrolled his way through Northrend. Please allow us to enjoy competent leadership for a bit.
And to quote from myself:
"Saurfang even tells the player that Garrosh's hotheaded, death-or-glory tactics are gaining support amongst the troops because they are,
for the time being
, succeeding."
He took to the Scourge problem in Northrend by blindly running in and smashing it with no actual thought given to the fact that they're the
Scourge
, when you lose one battle against them,
they make your corpses into fresh soldiers.
Go look at the Broken Front. That's Garrosh's "kill them all and let Gork 'n' Mork sort them out!" strategy at work. If it wasn't for the Argent Crusade forcing both sides to listen to them and hold the Tournament to provide a super elite force to tackle Icecrown Citadel, Garrosh would be arguing with Saurfang the Younger over who's the better Deathknight.
Ay exactly. The so called support Garrosh's followers come from is the old idology the old horde where killing and taking everything is the only means to an ends. At time when this happened, the horde were the bad guys.
I'm suppose to believe after the broken front, whos order and way of thinking came from Garrosh, that this is what the horde is about, idiotic tactics where everyone dies?
I think of in lord of the clans, when Thrall took leadership, and he himself stopped one of his warriors from killing humans in a village as senseless murder. If Garrosh was in Thralls place, he would more then likely kill the villagers, women and children alike.
The point being, it takes someone like Thrall, who older vets like saurfang and drek'thar believe in, to keep the rest of the horde from doing something stupid again.
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taurenmoo812
Garrosh has done better and more for the Horde then the faction leaders combined. Please dont make me like things like Grimtotems infiltrating Thunder Bluff,Burning Blade dancing around Org, UC's RAF problem ect...
Garrosh steamrolled his way through Northrend. Please allow us to enjoy competent leadership for a bit.
Because he totally helped form the Horde.
amirite?
What the hell does that have to do with it? A current president is doing a good job but that doesnt count cause he didn't found the land?
wtf?
Again, try to actully read the lore instead of only looking at the current situation before you make a comment like 'he's gonna do a better job then he did'. Warcrafts a lot more richer then whats happening in just wow.
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Falrinn
It's difficult to say at this point.
Blizzard made Varian a lot more tolerable later in the expansion, they could do the same with Garrosh down the road.
While Garrosh will probably always be a bit on the aggressive side, I think they could make him a decent character.
Another solution is to have him simply in charge of the Orcs, but not the Horde as a whole. That way his political power would be kept in check by the other Horde leaders while Thrall is away. So while he is crazy, he is limited in his power to influence the Horde. After awhile he could be replaced by someone else, or be taught humility in some way.
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Denkou
Garrosh has done better and more for the Horde then the faction leaders combined. Please dont make me like things like Grimtotems infiltrating Thunder Bluff,Burning Blade dancing around Org, UC's RAF problem ect...
Garrosh steamrolled his way through Northrend. Please allow us to enjoy competent leadership for a bit.
Because he totally helped form the Horde.
amirite?
What the hell does that have to do with it? A current president is doing a good job but that doesnt count cause he didn't found the land?
wtf?
It does count. However, you said Garrosh has done better and more for the Horde than the faction leaders COMBINED. That is a false statement. This is a fact, not a matter of opinion. To say that Garrosh has done more things for the betterment of the Horde than the faction leaders combined is flat-out wrong.
You compared him to the faction leaders, which includes Thrall, who basically founded the new Horde and Orgrimmar, which is why Haxzor replied with what he did. His argument is valid.
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FarseerLolotea
Blizzard made Varian a lot more tolerable later in the expansion, they could do the same with Garrosh down the road.
While Garrosh will probably always be a bit on the aggressive side, I think they could make him a decent character.Re-working him subtly is one thing. They did a decent job with Varian. However, last time Garrosh changed to any degree, he just went abruptly from being Emorc sulking in Nagrand to being this rageoholic picking fights with Thrall.
Another solution is to have him simply in charge of the Orcs, but not the Horde as a whole. That way his political power would be kept in check by the other Horde leaders while Thrall is away. So while he is crazy, he is limited in his power to influence the Horde. After awhile he could be replaced by someone else, or be taught humility in some way.At this point, I'm hoping Deathwing eats him and Gorgonna is named as his successor.
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taurenmoo812
At this point, I'm hoping Deathwing eats him and Gorgonna is named as his successor.
You know the whole Krenna and Gorgonna thing always did strike me as if it was a female version of Garrosh and Thrall, and we side with Gorgonna like siding with Thrall to kick Krenna's ass, hoping what we get to do to Garrosh.
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