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Priest healing vs. druid healing
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Post by
karlusdavius
i didn't say easier at all. i said efficient. A druid can hit their maximum capacity in terms of HPS easier than a priest yes, however that is due to a rotation. That said, Blue posts have said they want to bring druids away from HoT blankets and bring other spells into the folley.
Discipline is a different kettle of fish. it a highly CD orientated spec to play. You don't have anything else to use other than flash heal once WS is up, PoM is out and Penance is on CD. It is a priority system, and not a rotation simply because PW:S can be used pre-emtive shield or a post damage buffer. It involved decision and insight into the fight and damage that is incoming. Penance is the same. it requires timing and decision making to use it effectively. If you use penance like a druid does WG your tank will die due to your lack of recovery.
your talking apples and pears when bring discipline into the argument.
Post by
jwjsmith
Disc's 3 sec aoe heal is a big piggy.... often by the time it hits you are literally praying people will still be alive... and it's the only aoe you have.
Cough
Yes, and shielding people before the AoE hits is so hard, because AoE's are so hard to time.
Post by
OscarDivine
Disc's 3 sec aoe heal is a big piggy.... often by the time it hits you are literally praying people will still be alive... and it's the only aoe you have.
Cough
Yes, and shielding people before the AoE hits is so hard, because AoE's are so hard to time.
I find this to be a harrowing task myself. I only have about 30 seconds to plan my bubbles before the next AoE event hits and
my reactions
just can't handle that kind of stress.
Post by
MegaVolt
You don't have anything else to use other than flash heal once WS is up, PoM is out and Penance is on CD.
I think tank and raid healing gets mixed here.
For raid healing FH is almost never used. It's PoM every cooldown and spam PW:S otherwise, use Penance to spot heal.
This is exactly the same as a Druids WG every cooldown, spam RJ otherwise, use Swiftmend to spot heal.
Holy is a tiny bit more complex but the difference really isn't as big as people make it seem. There are two spells to use on cooldown, CoH and PoM. Other than that you still get an easy rotation. Just spam Renew, use 3FH -> PoH or even a mix of both.
It's a bit different for tank healing. There are no real rotations and it's actually a lot more complex for both disc Priests and Druids.
Disc has to keep WS on the MT and possible OT, use Penance when appropriate, PoM on cooldown and a lot of FHs/GHs.
Druids have to keep Lifebloom active and control the bloom right on both tanks, keep Rejuv active on both tanks, use RG when necessary so that the initial heal isn't wasted and the HoT still gets a good uptime (again on two tanks in most fights), use WG in case both tanks are damaged and get healed by it (or if he just wants to help out on raid healing a bit) every cooldown and fill it up with Swiftmend/Nourish. It's basically all about controlling 10 different timers (4 HoTs on each tank plus Swiftmend / Wild Growth) and that is quite challenging.
The main difference I see is that for tank healing the priority system is much more complex but you are only healing 1-2 targets. For raid healing the rotation / priority system is much easier but the difficulty is in picking the correct targets to heal. Anticipating damage and shielding appropriately is much more difficult than just blindly blanketing and it's what distinguishes the great from the good players.
I find this to be a harrowing task myself. I only have about 30 seconds to plan my bubbles before the next AoE event hits and
my reactions
just can't handle that kind of stress.
It's not like you have to cast 1 shield in those 30 seconds. You want to ideally cast 27 shields (and 3 PoM). Granted, as a disc Priest you have to think a lot less than a Druid because the shield lasts so much longer than HoTs but throwing them out randomly is still not the best thing to do, anticipating damage and shielding accordingly works better.
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Post by
donnymurph
Disc's 3 sec aoe heal is a big piggy.... often by the time it hits you are literally praying people will still be alive... and it's the only aoe you have.
Cough
Yes, and shielding people before the AoE hits is so hard, because AoE's are so hard to time.
I find this to be a harrowing task myself. I only have about 30 seconds to plan my bubbles before the next AoE event hits and
my reactions
just can't handle that kind of stress.
Yeah I imagine it'd be pretty tough.
Post by
MegaVolt
Are you saying you actually have to "think" in order to refresh HoTs (or PW:S)? I have a corner icon for Rejuvenation (or PW:S+WS) which allows me to know who has what at all times, I simply avoid refreshing something on someone that still has it, not much thinking is involved here, if I'm in spam-mode, no matter if I'm playing my Druid or Priest. While it's true that throwing them at random isn't the way to go, it's not like there was all that much brain usage required to avoid clipping HoTs (or PW:Ss)... :P
Well, generally the amount of brain usage in WoW is quite limited. But as far as WoW complexity goes refreshing HoTs properly is one of the "harder" tasks.
For the Druid there are 25 raid members and 15 of them should have Rejuv ticking. This means the next best target has to be found. You can just throw one on the remaining 10 people but that's not the most efficient way to go about it. Usually one has to judge who of the remaining people is ranged/melee and who is likely to take damage soon and focus accordingly. E.g. prioritize ranged for Rejuv and melee for WG, demo/destro Warlocks over other ranged due to the lack of self healing and their LT and so on. All this while using an addon that tracks the GCD properly so that as little time as possible is wasted between casts (just 50ms delay between casts are an effective 5% loss of HPS).
Trying to prioritize in this way while keeping the cast frequency at a maximum and while still weaving in spot heals with Swiftmend and Nourish is still quite easy compared to the mouse acrobatics that e.g. a StarCraft player has to do for proper Mutalisk micro or compared to the ultra fast reactions that a top tier Quake3 player has - but as I said, compared to other tasks (e.g. most dps rotations) in WoW I'd certainly count it as one of the more complex things to do.
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Post by
OscarDivine
It's not like you have to cast 1 shield in those 30 seconds. You want to ideally cast 27 shields (and 3 PoM). Granted, as a disc Priest you have to think a lot less than a Druid because the shield lasts so much longer than HoTs but throwing them out randomly is still not the best thing to do, anticipating damage and shielding accordingly works better.
Well actually, I shield the most important targets (healers, important DPS) preferentially. *shrug* but then I'm just biased. I also do my best to get the maximum use out of my Rapture procs. ;-) Besides, healing as a disco priest as a raid bubbler is quite possibly the most monotonous and brainless kind of healing you can do in WoW presently. Your job is pretty much to prepare for the big AoE's before they hit as the boss winds up something that puts every other healer's fingers on their triggers, we just kinda set it and forget it for the 30 second duration.
BTW, I want the
upgraded shield
tyvm.
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Post by
OscarDivine
BTW, I want the
upgraded shield
tyvm.
/drool
I'd trade Reflective Shields for Greater PW:S anytime.
I mean seriously, there are times that I kinda wanna absorb 25k damage. You know. from time to time. I imagine that come Cataclysm lvl 85 with all of our upgrades and what-not, we'll probably have bubbles that absorb around 20k.
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