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challenge: just give one instance of me misusing a quote
How about your post responding to me on the 6th. You intended to mis-quote me to further your self agrandizement, and had to admit they weren't my words. You ruined your credibility not me. I admitted to being a Troll, and a Griefer on this topic. Why can't you?
Challenge met!
Don't make me re-quote you. I was told to stop that.
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You can be a great PvP'er without knowing how to BG. I have seen arena masters make themselves look like complete idiots in AV, and other battlegrounds. Just because their more focused on KB's, then flags (Like half the BGer's out there nowadays) does not make them a bad PVP'er.
Allow me to raise another point. Battlegrounds, as of now, are known widely as a "noob field". Mistakes don't kill your team (Many mistakes do, but you should get away fine with a moderate amount of errors), and the average player skill and gear around is low. So, most players do not care. Skilled or not, have you never entered a Battleground with the sole purpose of laughing while you thrash people with berserking, on full pve gear? (I personally don't do this, I won't affirm I never did it - I honestly don't remember doing a BG for anything that's not the objective, but I definately don't make it a common behaviour)
As Battlegrounds are not done for anything that's competitive, people don't bring their full skills. You're not facing 10 players with vent and Wrathful, so why bother? (once again, not my stance, but I see this more than once.)
Try to do a 2700 match without vent, without macros and without excelent timings. You're toast.
The lack of competitivity means you don't -need- everything. Rated BGs will change this.
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no, I really didn't; i assure you, everyone who read the post in
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was completely aware that those weren't the words you used ("rawrrrrrr" I mean, really man?) but instead were used as a comical summary of your ever changing contribution to the thread
Im honestly curious though, do you really believe that I ruined my credibility with that post, or is this just what your whole argument has been reduced to?
If you look at the link you kindly posted you will see prominently the phrase "Uricidea said:" over and over. That had to look like you were quoting me. How can you "Assure" me what others though of that post?
You decide if your credibility is worth anything. You are so busy trying be right that you forgot your own requirements for evidence. Typical of an educated but willfully ignorant person.
no its useless for you to argue without evidence, I however have logic and don't need to go anecdotal to argue my points
log·ic –noun
1. the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference.
Just one definition of Logic. How does your anecdotal (i.e. without evidence) argument carry more weight than anyone else? It doesn't, except to you, which is all that seems to matter. Using argumentative statements, inappropriately, that you learned on the Debate Team won't always work.
I think you're the perfect personification of "self-justified elitism". I'm sure it helps you in everyday life.
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The lack of competitivity means you don't -need- everything. Rated BGs will change this.
As strange as it is, this line put an awful lot of ideas into my head of what rated bg guilds could be like come cata.
What with a general lack of premades on my server, Im genuinely looking forward to things like AB with vent, where communication is key, as hopefully it might make games more strategic and enjoyable.
Im also looking forward to the strats and comps that may follow, if rated bg's do manage to become highly competitive.
The problem with rated BGs being competitive is that, as far as I know, only a 5 player team can queue together. This means that you'll get 2-3 5 player teams together, but not in the same vent. Probably, they'll be communicating via BG-chat, but it's not going to be as fast or organized as having a single vent server. Also, this means that you don't know half to two thirds of your team, you don't know what they're capable of or how they're geared, or what their playstyle is. Are they a burst team or a slow-killing team, etc
I believe that the advent of rated BGs will definitely make BGs more competitive, but still not as competitive as arenas. For this reason, I believe arena will be the "PvP training ground" where players go to become better, even if they're more interested in BGs.
Really? I thought I had read that you would only be able to queue for rated battlegrounds as a full team, hence my excitement of it becoming truly competitive on the same levels as arena.
No, more than likely it will stay as a group of 5, like now.
BUT, an interesting idea would be the for every bg or whatever, you throw up vent info, have perfect coordination, then if they don't leave vent at the end of the game, just kick em.
Seems like some easy wins.
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